Blackburn - The best place to make a living

Generali

GunJack wrote: »

^^^ and that sort of attitude is why most half-decent opportunities seem to be leaking away from the rest of the country... what's so special about a whacking-great big expensive horrible overcrowded place like London unless you're in politics or finance??

Because it's become self-reinforcing. If you are ambitious and want to earn good money you head to London. As a result, the rest of the country is denuded of young talent to an extent. As a result, there are more opportunities in London so if you are ambitious......

There are two ways around this:

1. Wreck the economy of London out of spite
2. People living in not-London pull their fingers out and build businesses and success that will keep the motivated in their communities.

bugslet

Generali wrote: »

2. People living in not-London pull their fingers out and build businesses and success that will keep the motivated in their communities.

Smug mode on.

chucknorris

GunJack wrote: »

^^^ and that sort of attitude is why most half-decent opportunities seem to be leaking away from the rest of the country... what's so special about a whacking-great big expensive horrible overcrowded place like London unless you're in politics or finance??

When I graduated the attraction of London for me was the (comparatively) cheap property (in 1990), faster career progression (I was a mature student, and felt the need to regain those lost years) and access to a particular MSc course that I wanted to enrol on.

lisyloo

what's so special about a whacking-great big expensive horrible overcrowded place like London unless you're in politics or finance??

For millions of people - work is the reason they are here.

It's not just finance and policitcs. There are many IT contractors and various consultants getting jobs and rates of pay they wouldn't get elsewhere.
Personally I'd be delighted if you moved the jobs, but there a vicious circle where the jobs comes here because the talent is here and the talent comes here because the jobs are here.

bugslet

Generali wrote: »

Because it's become self-reinforcing. .

When I started Bugs ( very specialist) Haulage, I did so from Manchester. However, most of the companies that make what I move, are based in the South generally, with a reasonable bias to the SE. So although we are a Northern company, whose employees are primarily engaged in manual labour, we had to go where the work was. It affects all businesses be they IT, law or those irritating trucks.

GunJack

lisyloo wrote: »

For millions of people - work is the reason they are here.

It's not just finance and policitcs. There are many IT contractors and various consultants getting jobs and rates of pay they wouldn't get elsewhere.
Personally I'd be delighted if you moved the jobs, but there a vicious circle where the jobs comes here because the talent is here and the talent comes here because the jobs are here.

flippin'eck, IT is/should be one of the most geographic non-dependant sectors out there... why is this apparently not the case??

GunJack

lisyloo wrote: »

but there a vicious circle where the jobs comes here because the talent is here and the talent comes here because the jobs are here.

and for the sake of the rest of the country is that not a circle we ought to try and break??

lisyloo

flippin'eck, IT is/should be one of the most geographic non-dependant sectors out there... why is this apparently not the case??

People are not economically mobile in the UK because

1) It's a big deal and costly to move house.
2) It's difficult if two of you (or maybe more) in the household have jobs. What if husband doesn't want to change his job when it's appropriate for the wife to move or vice versa?
3) It's not ideal to keep movng children especially at certain stages of their education.
4) People like to see their grandchildren and may even care for them.
5) People may have caring responsibilities (perhaps even daily) for their parents.
6) General link to friends, extended family, clubs and voluntary work.

lisyloo

and for the sake of the rest of the country is that not a circle we ought to try and break??

Who's responsibility is that.
My CEO says it's not his.

mayonnaise

Generali wrote: »

2. People living in not-London pull their fingers out and build businesses and success that will keep the motivated in their communities.

And stop rejecting development which could generate decent jobs and significant revenues for the region.

The proposed project in Little Plumpton, near Preston, was turned down due to concerns over an “unacceptable noise impact” and the “adverse urbanising effect on the landscape”, Lancashire County Council said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lancashire-councillors-decision-to-reject-fracking-a-serious-setback-for-shale-gas-in-uk-10353892.html