Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Tromking

CLAPTON wrote: »

difficult to view
-spend more
-borrow more
-tax more
as an exciting new economic vision




interesting that you sneer at the working classes acquiring consumer goods and call spending more than we earn as 'austerity'.


Truly the Corbyn/McConnell/Abbot double speak is affecting your soul

Well that's a widely held, if hackneyed view on left wing economic thinking you have there Clappers, it remains to be seen as to whether it'll be rejected by the populous though.
That's what I'm liking about the current political landscape though, there's now a real choice for us voters.

CLAPTON

Tromking wrote: »

Well that's a widely held, if hackneyed view on left wing economic thinking you have there Clappers, it remains to be seen as to whether it'll be rejected by the populous though.
That's what I'm liking about the current political landscape though, there's now a real choice for us voters.

indeed so


at least you acknowledge that the policy is
-spend more
-borrow more
-tax more


no need to be ashamed about openly copying Greece but plenty to be ashamed about supporting people like Corbyn, McConnell and Abbot.

Tromking

CLAPTON wrote: »

indeed so


at least you acknowledge that the policy is
-spend more
-borrow more
-tax more


no need to be ashamed about openly copying Greece but plenty to be ashamed about supporting people like Corbyn, McConnell and Abbot.

Most politicians are hewn out of the same block of s*** in my view Clappers, the choice is to go for the one closest to your values not the one who with every fibre of his or her being totally mirrors your own. I read on Twitter this morning a tweet ending with the hashtag....
#idontlikecorbynbut

gadgetmind

Tromking wrote: »

I left school in 1982 to a YTS scheme

I took a chance on someone via a YTS scheme who lacked the qualifications to go via our normal hiring route. In the right environment, he thrived and quickly turned into a very strong programmer. He now runs his own successful games software company.

People criticised YTS but when used correctly it could be very effective.

Tromking

My Bosses son was honest enough to admit at the time that they used the YTS as cheap labour for 6 months and a tool to get rid easily if the employee turned out to 'not suitable'.

michaels

Tromking wrote: »

My Bosses son was honest enough to admit at the time that they used the YTS as cheap labour for 6 months and a tool to get rid easily if the employee turned out to 'not suitable'.

Excellent, thousands (millions) of young people got the chance to prove themselves, without which they would never have been offered employment becuase it would have been too costly and too risky to take a punt that there might be potential hidden behind academic failure resulting from an education system that was much better on excuses (wrong background, home enviroment, low expectations) than results.

gadgetmind

Tromking wrote: »

get rid easily if the employee turned out to 'not suitable'.

Well, a degree of derisking is a good thing. The difficulty of getting rid of someone, no matter how much a waste of fresh air they are, is why employers in France as so petrified to hire and expand. Of course, you need balance.

The goals of YTS were worthy and many employers used it wisely and to the benefit of trainees as well as the company.

I kind of did a DIY version in that I started my first company while still at university to avoid the whole messy job hunting thing, and 30 years later have never had to write a CV or have a job interview.

Graham_Devon

Moby wrote: »

The conference is going a lot better than you hoped isn't it hence the usual hate filled right wing hyperbole on here from our right wing 'contributors'. Jezza is making his mark; it aint dull, isnt spun or choreographed. Its very refreshing and what's more he's clearly got people talking about what he thinks.....changing the boundaries of political debate! Just what we needed in this country. Shake up the complacent Daily Fail and Torygraph readers.......... The yahoos that believed they were voting for economic stability and that we we were in the sunny uplands of recovery. Meanwhile the FTSE drops yet another 150 points and porky Dave bestrides the world political scene like a colossus. That was irony by the way!;)

Interesting to note that the telegraph has resorted to swearing on the front pages to try and get the point across.

Tromking

michaels wrote: »

Excellent, thousands (millions) of young people got the chance to prove themselves, without which they would never have been offered employment becuase it would have been too costly and too risky to take a punt that there might be potential hidden behind academic failure resulting from an education system that was much better on excuses (wrong background, home enviroment, low expectations) than results.

Why would you think that in era of mass unemployment that anyone entering a YTS would be an academic failure?

michaels

Tromking wrote: »

Why would you think that in era of mass unemployment that anyone entering a YTS would be an academic failure?

Is there no correlation between academic acheivement and likelihood of being unemployed between 16 and 24?

Even in the early 80s I would guess that less than 50% of 16-24 year olds were unemployed and that those with fewer academic qualifications were more likely to be unemployed.