Corbynomics: A Dystopia

michaels

Filo25 wrote: »

The way the Tories are going at present, Corbyn will be getting in by default at the next election...

I still have no idea who the next Tory leader is going to be ( I really can't see any way in which May leads them into the next election unless the government simply collapses unexpectedly before they have the time to give her the boot).

Boris Johnson shows himself to be ever more unsuited for ministerial office never mind the PM job.

The social conservatives may love Rees Mogg but he's done nothing of note in his career, and like Johnson I don't sense that he has huge popularity in the parliamentary party.

Davis maybe, although age isn't on his side, and I don't see anyone being too happy with whatever Brexit deal gets delivered, so he's going to take flak for that.

Rudd and Hammond are too "Remainy" for the members and Rudd is in too much of a marginal anyway.

Are there any other obvious candidates around?

I think Rudd is most keen that the comtest doesn't happen yet as I guess she probably feels she is not yet in a position to win and would like most of the brexit nastiness to happen under someone else whereas in 2 years time if she handles her brief she may well be in a great position whereas Boris probably thinks the longer May lasts the lower his chances but also thinks if he is the one seen to be doing the stabbing in the back now he will not be rewarded with the leadership. Hammond I suspect is to soft on brexit to ever win and I am not sure if Davis wants the job. The tories are probably not suicidal enough to choose rees mogg so who does that leave with any name recognition? Are there any up and coming telegenic ministers who might be ready in 2 years? Might someone act as a stalking horse for boris in the short term?

Fella

Filo25 wrote: »

Are there any other obvious candidates around?

I'd be surprised if she got the nod but Ruth Davis would make mincemeat of Corbyn. An entertaining prospect.

michaels

michaels wrote: »

I think Rudd is most keen that the comtest doesn't happen yet as I guess she probably feels she is not yet in a position to win and would like most of the brexit nastiness to happen under someone else whereas in 2 years time if she handles her brief she may well be in a great position whereas Boris probably thinks the longer May lasts the lower his chances but also thinks if he is the one seen to be doing the stabbing in the back now he will not be rewarded with the leadership. Hammond I suspect is to soft on brexit to ever win and I am not sure if Davis wants the job. The tories are probably not suicidal enough to choose rees mogg so who does that leave with any name recognition? Are there any up and coming telegenic ministers who might be ready in 2 years? Might someone act as a stalking horse for boris in the short term?

To answer my own question it looks like Shapps is trying to engineer something on Boris's behalf but Boris obviously doesn't want his finger prints anywhere near it which makes it hard for his supporters to be seen to be making up the numbers (48?) required to trigger a vote.

Is Ruth Davidson an MP?

Filo25

michaels wrote: »

To answer my own question it looks like Shapps is trying to engineer something on Boris's behalf but Boris obviously doesn't want his finger prints anywhere near it which makes it hard for his supporters to be seen to be making up the numbers (48?) required to trigger a vote.

Is Ruth Davidson an MP?

She isn't, nor does she seem massively keen on becoming one.

I think she would be a great choice for the Tories personally but even if she did get into parliament I wouldn't see her as being a likely winner of any leadership contest amongst the Tory membership (too europhile and I think with the makeup of the Tory membership some are sadly likely to have an issue with her sexual orientation).

For Rudd I think there would be concern about having the leader in what is now a marginal constituency, you know Labour would throw resources at that seat and Rudd may end up being forced to spend more time on her local campaign than you would like from a major party leader

Arklight

Tories reeling as Labour surges ahead in the polls. Most people would now prefer a Corbyn government!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-tories-poll-latest-lead-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-pm-general-election-five-points-bmg-a7988166.html

buglawton

Perhaps a Corbyn cold shower is what this dozy electorate needs to shake it out of its torpor. The yoof of today needs to experience Labour once in recent memory as an inoculation. Party like it's 1979!

Arklight

buglawton wrote: »

Perhaps a Corbyn cold shower is what this dozy electorate needs to shake it out of its torpor. The yoof of today needs to experience Labour once in recent memory as an inoculation. Party like it's 1979!

Yes they should just take ther medicine and swallow the poo sandwich the boomers have made for them and vote Tory, forever. Because this is absolutely the best that Britain can manage.

ukcarper

Arklight wrote: »

Yes they should just take ther medicine and swallow the poo sandwich the boomers have made for them and vote Tory, forever. Because this is absolutely the best that Britain can manage.

I think this post says more about you and your attitude than you realise and does nothing for your argument.

Sapphire

Arklight wrote: »

Tories reeling as Labour surges ahead in the polls. Most people would now prefer a Corbyn government

From the Independent, no less. :rotfl::T:beer:

I know no one who would 'now prefer a Corbyn government'. In fact, I'm finding the opposite is the case, the more the Corbhyn cult shows its face: huge 'Hang the Tories' poster outside the Tory conference and the like tactics – just imagine the faux outrage from the BBC and the likes of the 'Independent' and Guardian if a 'Hang the Labour Party' poster had been hung outside the 'labour' conference.

buglawton

What we desperately need is a new party to take up the current political vacuum like happened recently in France. Not invented here however with our polarising first past the post voting system.