Corbynomics: A Dystopia

buglawton

Gangaweed wrote: »

Brexit and Corbyn.
It is hard to imagine things going much worse.

The grand experiment but with the starting parameters highly unfavourable. But the new generation of electorate does need to experience labour and the unions ruling the roost so they can party like it's 1979. Then they can grow up to be the old fogeys that will evermore afterwards vote Tory.

.string.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

One suspects the people that really matter to the UK. Won't even take the chance. As not just what the policies will do. But the servicing costs of that huge pile of debt. Even the US has a problem looming. The Chinese may not bail them out indefinately.

Yes, and I hope that soon the utter irresponsibility if their policies will be laid bare; just one more speech by Corbyn to expose their nonsense. As a floating voter there is still no way I would vote for such doctrinaire policies.

Good point about American debt to the Chinese by the way.

Filo25

buglawton wrote: »

Corbynomics can only be afforded - up to some extent - if we remain a vassal state of the EU. After all Corbynomics is quite close to France's statist thinking (may even be a bit to the right of it). I expect Labour to do one of the biggest U-turns on Brexit ever imagined were they to gain power.

I doubt the French would be fans of the UK government suddenly taking over French owned utilities for below market price.

Corbyn has generally always been opposed to the EU precisely because it doesn't allow some of the more activist industrial policy hew would like to introduce.

Eric_the_half_a_bee

Filo25 wrote: »

Corbyn has generally always been opposed to the EU precisely because it doesn't allow some of the more activist industrial policy hew would like to introduce.

The sort of state aid policies that have led to punitive tariffs on Bombardier exports to the US

Malthusian

buglawton wrote: »

Corbynomics can only be afforded - up to some extent - if we remain a vassal state of the EU. After all Corbynomics is quite close to France's statist thinking (may even be a bit to the right of it).

I'm not sure it's as simple as the UK electing a Corbynist government and deciding we'd like to go from being net payers to net claimants. The EU is having enough kittens as it is at the prospect of the UK going from net payers to net zero and the hole that leaves in the "project".

If the UK tried to become a client, Corbyn's disregard of state aid rules would be more than enough pretext for the EU to deny any attempts by the UK to claim subsidies and grants.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

From the Telegraph this evening:
"Labour in chaos as Jeremy Corbyn 'guarantees' access to the single market"

In his keynote address to the party's annual conference in Brighton, Mr Corbyn said Labour would "guarantee unimpeded access to the single market" after leaving the union following the transition period.
But in a subsequent briefing aides of the leader appeared to play down the remarks, first claiming the promise applied only in the two years between leaving and a new deal, then suggesting Mr Corbyn has always backed continued membership of the market.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/labour-chaos-asjeremy-corbyn-guarantees-access-single-market/

mrginge

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

From the Telegraph this evening:
"Labour in chaos as Jeremy Corbyn 'guarantees' access to the single market"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/labour-chaos-asjeremy-corbyn-guarantees-access-single-market/

Jeremy appears to be guaranteeing to deliver all the things that the remain campaign told us was not possible.

It is a triumph and he truly has united leave and remain voters by giving everybody what they wanted.

I am now voting labour.

Thrugelmir

mrginge wrote: »

Jeremy appears to be guaranteeing to deliver all the things that the remain campaign told us was not possible.

It is a triumph and he truly has united leave and remain voters by giving everybody what they wanted.

I am now voting labour.

Jeremy was preaching to the converted. As is the case with party conferences. Trouble is, it's like somene running to catch a bus. Everytime he seems to be catching up. The news has moved on.

Worth reminding the Labour faithful that child poverty is at the same level as under Blair\Brown. Simply blaming others. Doesn't wash. Why didn't Corbyn champion the cause back then one wonders.

Fella

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Jeremy was preaching to the converted.

Which is in fact all he ever does. In his whole time as leader of what used to be the Labour Party I've yet to see him have the guts to face an even mildly hostile audience.

He prefers to stand in front of carefully chosen crowds with his hands aloft & feed his ego. It also suits the narrative that he & Momentum are trying to create that he is enormously popular & increasingly so.

If that's true lets see him face a hostile crowd. Or even a neutral crowd. How about some Jewish Labour supporters?

Don't hold your breath.

The reality is he's so craven he won't face anything other than a carefully selected friendly audience AND he's so scared of being shown up he won't even allow Labour MPs to debate & vote on the biggest issue of the day. Underneath all they hype he's just a beardy cult.

Crashy_Time

Fella wrote: »

Which is in fact all he ever does. In his whole time as leader of what used to be the Labour Party I've yet to see him have the guts to face an even mildly hostile audience.

He prefers to stand in front of carefully chosen crowds with his hands aloft & feed his ego. It also suits the narrative that he & Momentum are trying to create that he is enormously popular & increasingly so.

If that's true lets see him face a hostile crowd. Or even a neutral crowd. How about some Jewish Labour supporters?

Don't hold your breath.

The reality is he's so craven he won't face anything other than a carefully selected friendly audience AND he's so scared of being shown up he won't even allow Labour MPs to debate & vote on the biggest issue of the day. Underneath all they hype he's just a beardy cult.

So is a fair chunk of the population nowadays, and he did close the gap big time with the Tories last time. Just accept that the country is going to go for this guy is my advice.