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Corbynomics: A Dystopia

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  • TheNickster
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    Shocking state of affairs.

    Why do people get riled up about the rise of fascists but not communists these days?

    Corbyn is not a communist. He is a social democrat albeit at the left wing end of the spectrum of social democracy - Tony Blair being at the right wing end.
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  • CLAPTON
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    Corbyn is not a communist. He is a social democrat albeit at the left wing end of the spectrum of social democracy - Tony Blair being at the right wing end.

    how do you distinguish between corbyn and a communist?
    is it is passionate belief in democracy or his passionate support for armed struggle in Ireland?
  • TheNickster
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    how do you distinguish between corbyn and a communist?
    is it is passionate belief in democracy or his passionate support for armed struggle in Ireland?

    Not that again.

    You can either believe he was sincere in that the believed he was helping the peace process or you believe otherwise.

    There is little point in going over it yet again.

    I have better things to do.
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  • TrickyTree83
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    Corbyn is not a communist. He is a social democrat albeit at the left wing end of the spectrum of social democracy - Tony Blair being at the right wing end.

    When there are reports of 'Trots' from the deputy leader JC kind of needs to admit to himself that communists are in the Labour party, and if he doesn't need to admit it to himself then I would assume he doesn't see it as an issue and possibly even aligns with their views.

    So he's either a communist sympathiser, a communist himself, or his deputy leader is a liar.

    Not a great set of truths to pick from :)
  • CLAPTON
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    Not that again.

    You can either believe he was sincere in that the believed he was helping the peace process or you believe otherwise.

    There is little point in going over it yet again.

    I have better things to do.

    you can believe stalin was a nice decent man if you like or you can believe otherwise
    however, there wasn't a peace process in 1970 but he supported the armed struggle as a way of forming a socialist ireland and was against an NI parliament

    the fact you don't agree make it no less true.
  • Mistermeaner
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    Jeez clapton we got it.
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • CLAPTON
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    Jeez clapton we got it.

    sorry old boy
    but corbyn just happens to be in the news at the moment : perhaps you haven't noticed
    and as it obvious, not everyone knows that he supported the men of violence and the philosophy of the Armalite and the ballot box.
  • gadgetmind
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    communists are in the Labour party

    Where else would they be?
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  • TheNickster
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    edited 9 August 2016 at 6:50PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    you can believe stalin was a nice decent man if you like or you can believe otherwise
    however, there wasn't a peace process in 1970 but he supported the armed struggle as a way of forming a socialist ireland and was against an NI parliament

    the fact you don't agree make it no less true.

    As did Martin Mcguiness but that did not stop him from being elected and becoming deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland 40 years later.

    It is rigid mindsets such as yours from both sides that 'helped' prolong the 'troubles' for decades.

    As it happens I am very concerned about Corbyn's lack of leadership skills but not because he may have been misguided as a young man.
    Do not be fooled into believing that this society cannot be made fairer because hard work isn't necessarily all it takes.
    There are those on MSE DT who know the price of everything but the value of little.
  • CLAPTON
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    edited 9 August 2016 at 9:32PM
    As did Martin Mcguiness but that did not stop him from being elected and becoming deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland 40 years later.

    It is rigid mindsets such as yours from both sides that 'helped' prolong the 'troubles' for decades.

    As it happens I am very concerned about Corbyn's lack of leadership skills but not because he may have been misguided as a young man.

    no idea what you are saying

    Martin ALWAYS supported the IRA and was quite open about it : he is totally unapologetic about the murders and killings and sees himself as an Irish patriot and freedom fighter.

    Are you saying that Corbyn is exactly the same?

    When would you give into terrorist : after the first killing or would you try to defeat it first?
    What was your reaction to 7/7, surrender?
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