Corbynomics: A Dystopia

gadgetmind

Alan_Brown wrote: »

the most important thing is the big scheme

This is what we need. Big generation schemes and big storage schemes.

whereas in fact it’s a holistic approach [we need]

Yes, it is.

which is about basically everybody using less,” and decentralised, locally owned generation.

If that's what someone thinks the solution is, then they don't understand the problem.

Read this to understand why.
https://www.withouthotair.com/

Spiv_2

A legal challenge is being brought against the Labour NEC’s decision to allow Jeremy Corbyn onto the leadership ballot without the need for nominations from MPs.

http://labourlist.org/2016/07/decision-to-put-corbyn-on-ballot-to-face-legal-challenge/

zarf2007

I think what is more concerning is that the left wing press have ignored the infiltration of the Labour Party by an ultra left wing anarchist group (Momentum) and if the equivalent happened to the Conservative Party (i.e. the BNP took hold) the same press would be outraged.

When are the last remaining idiots who support corbyn going to wake up and realise the Labour party under him will never be an effective opposition or have any chance of being elected.

When I listen to the union leaders most seem to be wearing VR headsets.

Mistermeaner

Labour are a joke - legal battles over their own rules? ridiculous - how could this lot be trusted to run a country, cant even run themselves

Arklight

This forum just seems to be visited by property owning, Tory voting, middle class, middle aged men.

Maybe if any of you stepped outside your bubbles of narrow self interest for a moment and took a moment to imagine what it might be like for the millions of people who don't fit into this comfortable bracket, then you might understand why Corbyn is so popular.

For a great many people Corbyn offers a genuine alternative to both the Tory Party and the PLP. Neither of which gives two figs about them.

The more you lot scream and tantrum about Corbyn the more we want to vote for him.

mrginge

Arklight wrote: »

This forum just seems to be visited by property owning, Tory voting, middle class, middle aged men.

Maybe if any of you stepped outside your bubbles of narrow self interest for a moment and took a moment to imagine what it might be like for the millions of people who don't fit into this comfortable bracket, then you might understand why Corbyn is so popular.

For a great many people Corbyn offers a genuine alternative to both the Tory Party and the PLP. Neither of which gives two figs about them.

The more you lot scream and tantrum about Corbyn the more we want to vote for him.

This is very true.
One thing though, I believe the socialist worker party has existed as an alternative to the tories and PLP for a number of years. Why have they not swept to power under the weight of millions of disillusioned voters?

Arklight

I don't want to vote for the SWP I want to vote for a Labour Party that cares about people who labour at least as much as the people who employ them to labour.

Air strikes, welfare cuts, austerity, bedroom taxes, biased media, housing shortages, tuition fees, NHS cuts.

If Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been the only candidate at the leadership election last year to oppose these, he wouldn't be leader now.

Why doesn't the plp oppose them too? The latest leadership challenger is a corporate lobbyist for Pfizer for goodness sake.

Also I've just learned the NEC have banned all local groups meeting until after the leadership ballot.

My group, that couldn't be in a more middle England area, just voted overwhelmingly for Corbyn, like almost all the others. Apparently we can't meet again because we might encourage ourselves to vote the wrong way.

It's a total joke.

The PLP's endless mad bullying is exactly like what they are accusing Corbyn of. They'll be trying to ship us of to rededication centres next.

Thrugelmir

Arklight wrote: »

Tthen you might understand why Corbyn is so popular.

Is he? Where's the evidence to support such an assertion.

mrginge

Arklight wrote: »

I don't want to vote for the SWP I want to vote for a Labour Party that cares about people who labour at least as much as the people who employ them to labour.

Surely that's what the SWP stand for and you vote for a party that shares your aims and beliefs?

It's like twenty odd years since the blairites popped up, why have you stuck around with them for so long??????

Get yourself down the SWP mate you'll be much happier.

Thrugelmir

Arklight wrote: »

Air strikes, welfare cuts, austerity, bedroom taxes, biased media, housing shortages, tuition fees, NHS cuts.

If Jeremy Corbyn hadn't been the only candidate at the leadership election last year to oppose these, he wouldn't be leader now.

Same old Labour oppose oppose oppose. Where's a credible economic plan B ? Had enough years to formulate one.

Headlines from the weekend were of raising of higher rate tax. Not the solution to the problems.