Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Moby

antrobus wrote: »

Being rude about politicians is a basic human right. People are always calling them idiots and fools, suffering from 'malformed brains', etc and so forth. None of which amounts to hatred or bigotry.

Within reason........ but this thread is a baiting pit and the bear is Corbyn and anyone who thinks he has something to say worth listening to!

Moby

Generali wrote: »

Have you read the OP? [

As for this New Economic Forum, I can't find it using Google. If you could manage to link to it I'd be everso greatful. I'll even put up with more of your increasingly desperate insults if you do.

I can find a new economic forum but it doesn't appear to emply Mr McC or be run by him.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/28/john-mcdonnell-new-economics-labour-conference

'John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, will promise to match Jeremy Corbyn’s new politics with a new economics, including a pledge that the next Labour government will live within its means but run a different kind of economy.'


It started with his speech to the Labour conference? Don't you remember?
and now the events have started..

http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/the-new-economics

...surely meat and drink to a thread titled Corbynomics.....but you didn't even know about it did you mate....but why would you....... when your energies were employed elsewhere on your true objective ...... Corbyn baiting!:)

CLAPTON

I just want to post something positive about McDonnell.
He believes that he can foretell the future about what is going to happen by the end of the century (84 years time)

by then there will be free movement of people between all countries and no country boundaries

sadly he didn't tell us whether we will be governed by a Chinese or US superstate, a caliphate, a socialist utopia or pax britannia but it good to know that all the divisions in the world will be overcome.

Generali

Moby wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/28/john-mcdonnell-new-economics-labour-conference
It started with his speech to the Labour conference? Don't you remember?
and now the events have started..

http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/the-new-economics

...surely meat and drink to a thread titled Corbynomics.....but you didn't even know about it did you mate....but why would you....... when your true objective was Corbyn baiting:)

Ah ha! Now we have it. It's The New Economics, not the New Economic Forum.

You'll excuse my confusion when you post stuff that is just...wrong. From getting the initial point of the thread wrong to your very last post you've either been wrong or abusive or both.

It's odd really because you seem like quite a nice guy when you lose the chip on the shoulder. Most of your posts make you look like an embittered person, a person that for whatever reason has taken it on that everyone that disagreed with you is some kind of closet Pinochet.

I started this thread to laugh at a silly article in the Daily Mail. You ascribe me with far too much intelligence to think that it was some sort of Machiavellian plot to abuse Mr Corbyn. That he inspires derision is hardly my fault.

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

I just want to post something positive about McDonnell.
He believes that he can foretell the future about what is going to happen by the end of the century (84 years time)

by then there will be free movement of people between all countries and no country boundaries

sadly he didn't tell us whether we will be governed by a Chinese or US superstate, a caliphate, a socialist utopia or pax britannia but it good to know that all the divisions in the world will be overcome.

So you saw him on Sunday Politics too....very moderate wasn't he and stood up well to Neill's reputation for being the scariest interviewer for politicians.

Moby

Generali wrote: »

Ah ha! Now we have it. It's The New Economics, not the New Economic Forum.

You'll excuse my confusion when you post stuff that is just...wrong. From getting the initial point of the thread wrong to your very last post you've either been wrong or abusive or both.

It's odd really because you seem like quite a nice guy when you lose the chip on the shoulder. Most of your posts make you look like an embittered person, a person that for whatever reason has taken it on that everyone that disagreed with you is some kind of closet Pinochet.

I started this thread to laugh at a silly article in the Daily Mail. You ascribe me with far too much intelligence to think that it was some sort of Machiavellian plot to abuse Mr Corbyn. That he inspires derision is hardly my fault.

So the Generali backtracks by petty references to my mistakenly adding the word 'forum'. Did that mean it didn't work on your google search for the material mate? Perhaps it would be better if you get out into the real world and see politics in action for a change instead of spending your time baiting on here?;)

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

So you saw him on Sunday Politics too....very moderate wasn't he and stood up well to Neill's reputation for being the scariest interviewer for politicians.

no I didn't see that
did he explain why he thought that countries boundaries would disappear and how that would happen? was it the communist dream of the state fading away (presumably after they have murdered 50-60 million people to kick start the process) or
was it because being a nice moderate person, he sees peace and prosperity everywhere?

But it will, in due cause, be interesting to see how much a labour government would borrow.

Moby

I think he said .....'by the end of the century' in reference to technology and movements of people round the globe changing boundaries. His point is I think ....things are changing and we'd better get used to it..... Migration etc is not going to go away. He was being challenged by Neill because of his former Euro sceptic views and responded by saying we have to change with the times and staying in Europe and co-operating internationally to deal with the said challenges is the way to go.

Generali

Moby wrote: »

So the Generali backtracks by petty references to my mistakenly adding the word 'forum'. Did that mean it didn't work on your google search for the material mate? Perhaps it would be better if you get out into the real world and see politics in action for a change instead of spending your time baiting on here?;)

You got the name of it wrong.

It's my fault you called me a hypocrite and it's my fault you got the point of the thread wrong and now it's my fault you don't even know the policies of your own Beloved Leader.

What I've found over the course of my life is that it's the angriest ones that are the most wrong.

Malthusian

Corbyn's lot do love this "grand sweeping march of history" dialectical materalism stuff. It is much more fun to imagine yourself as part of a global socialist revolution than as a two bit thug rampaging through a city centre, smashing some poor shopkeeper's windows.

"It's inevitable" seems to be sufficient reason for some people to not bother asking whether "it" is a good idea or not. We're not talking about stopping The Forces Of History, we're talking about a few thousand people, which we can choose to allow into this country or not. Talking about the forces of history, the tides of progress, and refusing to talk about the decision to be made right here and now, seems to be a way of dodging the question - that awkward moment when reality intrudes on your political philosophy.