Should we advise people to appeal to the IAS?

enfield_freddy

Zero as I thought , but did not want to quote inaccurate facts


one day gladstones will talk a gullible into it
and then the house of cards would collapse , and passably bring gladstones down as well ,


one day I hope

bod1467

Yes

Has this not already happened with a gullible, bottom-feeder IPC member? (I recall reading about this earlier this year; quite recently in fact. Pranky blog?)

enfield_freddy

who are you thinking of? did it make court?

ManxRed

Yes

I'm with Herzlos.

traceynob

Yes

According to info on bmpa website, www.bmpa.eu (under companies) there have been 3 hearings for Excel in first quarter 2015, (compared to 32,558 keeper requests)! I'm assuming due to time taken to get to court, these hearings all relate to incidences when Excel was still a member of BPA and therefore still offered POPLA?

hoohoo

Yes

bod1467 wrote: »

Has this not already happened with a gullible, bottom-feeder IPC member? (I recall reading about this earlier this year; quite recently in fact. Pranky blog?)

Quite a few bottom feeders have been persuaded to file claims through Gladstones - several thousand last year. Some even made it to a hearing.No doubt they even won some against poor defences. As yet though, there are no known instances of a rejected IAS appeal making it to a hearing.

traceynob

Yes

So is it win-win....?
If you appeal through IAS and win, you've, er, won
If you present a really good appeal and lose on spurious grounds, then it's very unlikely to go to court, so you just have to stick it out with all the junk mail for 6 years, and then you win....?

Half_way

Yes

Yes, but add in a small section stating that you expect the IAS to comply with the Alternate dispute resolution egulations.
The PPCs/ parking industry needs to be seen to be the ones acting unreasonably, and in order to make so that the PPC victim is/has acted reasonably they need to exhaust all avenues of complaint open to them .
And if/when the IAS comes up with a bizarre ruling then idealy this needs to be challenged to the landowner and the PPC with a put up or shut up reply.
Anything other than genuine court papers will be charged at a handling fee of up to £18 per hour or part thereof. in fact charging a handling fee less than £18 would also help to show that the victim has/is being perfectly reasonable, and further making the PPC/Landowner out to be unreasonable.

dalew007

After reading through these forums and trying to fight an in just parking charge from this mickey mouse company Vehicle Control Services LTD I looked on the BPA website to find this company also now trading as Flashpark Ltd

I had been ignoring the letters and requested further information, long story short i have appealed myself not using the letters included on here and it has been dismissed.

I have seen this on the flash park website.

Victory test case for the parking sector!

Court of Appeal just handed down a landmark ruling in favour of car park control companies. Up until now there’s been a lot of confusion about the legality of private parking companies and their ability to enforce parking charges. This confusion meant thousands of parking charge notices went unpaid by motorists.
Parking on private land is available to motorists as long as they abide by the rules the landowner puts in place. The signage on such land is there to remind motorists of the regulations and consequences of ignoring those regulations. Motorists have two options – to obey the instructions or find another site to park their vehicle. Car park control companies are there to assist landowners.

The Independent Parking Committee and British Parking Association are accredited trade associations which exist to regulate the car park control industry. Flashpark belongs to the BPA. This means motorists who park on land monitored by Flashpark have to right to appeal and Flashpark have the right to chase the charge.
This new decision gives us the legal backing we need to chase parking charges and take them further to an independent appeals service if need be. Motorists are still protected by the DVLA and if car park control companies do not belong to an Accredited Trade Association then they are probably unable to chase parking charges.

Can anyone offer an advice now ?

thanks

Quentin

You need to start your own thread if you have any questions AFTER you read the newbies FAQ thread at the top of this forum


(Though as your charge is from a BPA member, then this poll thread is irrelevant to you)