Britain is living through the best time ever

Moby

mayonnaise wrote: »

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-britain-is-living-through-the-best-era-ever-uk-economy-jobs-housing-2015-8

Have a great weekend, fellow MSE'ers. Enjoy the good times. :beer:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I think it's called being divorced from reality....or in the case of some ....insulated from it by their dosh!

Mistermeaner

Moby wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I think it's called being divorced from reality....or in the case of some ....insulated from it by their dosh!

What's so bad at the moment?

I genuinely struggle to understand how people can be struggling - anyone with a job on minimum wage or no job with kids has so much income, both their own earned and state handouts and stuff, including accommodation is so affordable (with state help for those who need it) that how can anyone really he struggling?

Because of the wealth of our nation everything is generally cheap too - food etc and look how much is free : education, dentist, healthcare, community groups, parks, open woodland.

What is there to complain about?

Of course if people drink, smoke, gamble, take drugs etc they wont have much leftover. Also if anyone wants more than a basic subsistence they maybe need to get off their !!! and earn it but what's wrong with that?

Can't help thinking alot of lefty moaning is just about envy of people who want bmws and 4 bed deatched but aren't prepared to work for it

cepheus

posted by mayonnaise

Location: Englefield Green

Thumbs up Britain is living through the best time ever

Britain's economy is going through a renaissance – we are living through one of the best times ever.

We have the highest employment rate in four decades, we're earning more money than before, and we're buying homes at an earlier age. We've completely and utterly stuck two fingers up at the recession in the last seven years.

I'm sure Englefied Green is going through the best time ever, however outside the home counties the situation is very different. Even taking the country as a whole, until very recently wages had stagnated.



The first time buyer age is surely rising, let's follow through the links to see what was really said

According to analysis of official data by the Mortgage Advice Bureau, a broker, the average age of people who bought a home in the last year through the "Help to Buy 2" mortgage guarantee was 31, compared with the national average age of 37

so what about the majority?

people looking to get their first step on the ladder have been hit hard. Quite simply, first-time buyers today need to be richer, borrow more and have larger deposits.

http://www.housing.org.uk/media/blog/first-time-buyers-have-been-hit-hard-by-the-housing-crisis/

worse still they are borrowing vasts amount of dosh. God help them if interest rates rise, they certain will need Mummy and Daddy to bail them out if they have anything left after their BTL speculations.

Moby

Mistermeaner wrote: »

What's so bad at the moment?

I genuinely struggle to understand how people can be struggling - anyone with a job on minimum wage or no job with kids has so much income, both their own earned and state handouts and stuff, including accommodation is so affordable (with state help for those who need it) that how can anyone really he struggling?

Because of the wealth of our nation everything is generally cheap too - food etc and look how much is free : education, dentist, healthcare, community groups, parks, open woodland.

What is there to complain about?

Of course if people drink, smoke, gamble, take drugs etc they wont have much leftover. Also if anyone wants more than a basic subsistence they maybe need to get off their !!! and earn it but what's wrong with that?

Can't help thinking alot of lefty moaning is just about envy of people who want bmws and 4 bed deatched but aren't prepared to work for it

The health service is in a right state, especially mental health/drug/alcohol services. Did you look at the latest start of treatment after cancer diagnosis figures....how poor they are? I saw a man yesterday released from prison with nothing and nowhere to go. I said where is your bag and he said I don't have one. All I have is what I'm wearing! This happens most weeks. Our prisons are an absolute disgrace, (you been inside one recently?). I go most weeks 'cause of my job.....so I know! Housing provision in London for those on benefits or low pay is very very poor. I visited my home town where I come from originally. It's full of boarded up shops and pound shops....very depressing! Regarding my job ....we have been told we are losing our employment, education support because of cutbacks and 600 of my colleagues in different parts of the country are being made redundant.
It's always the same....the well heeled and the insulated from reality types see the world differently....until misfortune hits that is. They think 'cause I'm alright jack' everything is fine and if it isn't it's because you need to get of your backside and work for it.....same old simplistic tosh. Things happen to people that they have no power over like serious illness, like abuse. Not everybody is born with well adjusted role model parents....so should they just get off their backs anyway....what if the only role models they have is the local gang leader and the only way of making their dosh is by being a runner for him? An article written for a business mag. by someone who looks about 12 does not represent reality in the UK today. It's puerile to think otherwise.

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

The health service is in a right state, especially mental health/drug/alcohol services. Did you look at the latest start of treatment after cancer diagnosis figures....how poor they are? I saw a man yesterday released from prison with nothing and nowhere to go. I said where is your bag and he said I don't have one. All I have is what I'm wearing! This happens most weeks. Our prisons are an absolute disgrace, (you been inside one recently?). I go most weeks 'cause of my job.....so I know! Housing provision in London for those on benefits or low pay is very very poor. I visited my home town where I come from originally. It's full of boarded up shops and pound shops....very depressing! Regarding my job ....we have been told we are losing our employment, education support because of cutbacks and 600 of my colleagues in different parts of the country are being made redundant.
It's always the same....the well heeled and the insulated from reality types see the world differently....until misfortune hits that is. They think 'cause I'm alright jack' everything is fine and if it isn't it's because you need to get of your backside and work for it.....same old simplistic tosh. Things happen to people that they have no power over like serious illness, like abuse. Not everybody is born with well adjusted role model parents....so should they just get off their backs anyway....what if the only role models they have is the local gang leader and the only way of making their dosh is by being a runner for him? An article written for a business mag. by someone who looks about 12 does not represent reality in the UK today. It's puerile to think otherwise.

so basically the worst thing about the UK is that we don't treat convicted criminals to large handouts (is that a thank for robbing some old lady and ruining her last few year?).


you need to get some perspective both by comparison with the rest of the world and 20-30 years ago.

Generali

cepheus wrote: »

I'm sure Englefied Green is going through the best time ever, however outside the home counties the situation is very different. Even taking the country as a whole, until very recently wages had stagnated.

Of course another way of looking at it is that wages are rising now.

CLAPTON

cepheus wrote: »

I'm sure Englefied Green is going through the best time ever, however outside the home counties the situation is very different. Even taking the country as a whole, until very recently wages had stagnated.

so the worst thing ever is stagnated wages :ok they have a nice place to live, plenty of food, clean water, gas and electricity on tap, a car, several flat screen TVs, holidays, nice cloths, superb educational opportunities, a wonderful NHS, a better standard of living than 90% of the world, BUT THEY AREN'T GETTING RICHER.

Well vote for Corbyn, he'll soon made this era one to reminisce about (ha do you remember when electricity worked at a flick of a switch, when we had a health service that worked .......... .

cepheus

Outside the Ivory Tower of the Home Counties

antrobus

cepheus wrote: »

Outside the Ivory Tower of the Home Counties....

When all else fails; copy and paste.:rotfl:

Mistermeaner

Moby wrote: »

The health service is in a right state, especially mental health/drug/alcohol services. Did you look at the latest start of treatment after cancer diagnosis figures....how poor they are? I saw a man yesterday released from prison with nothing and nowhere to go. I said where is your bag and he said I don't have one. All I have is what I'm wearing! This happens most weeks. Our prisons are an absolute disgrace, (you been inside one recently?). I go most weeks 'cause of my job.....so I know! Housing provision in London for those on benefits or low pay is very very poor. I visited my home town where I come from originally. It's full of boarded up shops and pound shops....very depressing! Regarding my job ....we have been told we are losing our employment, education support because of cutbacks and 600 of my colleagues in different parts of the country are being made redundant.
It's always the same....the well heeled and the insulated from reality types see the world differently....until misfortune hits that is. They think 'cause I'm alright jack' everything is fine and if it isn't it's because you need to get of your backside and work for it.....same old simplistic tosh. Things happen to people that they have no power over like serious illness, like abuse. Not everybody is born with well adjusted role model parents....so should they just get off their backs anyway....what if the only role models they have is the local gang leader and the only way of making their dosh is by being a runner for him? An article written for a business mag. by someone who looks about 12 does not represent reality in the UK today. It's puerile to think otherwise.

Yes it's not perfect - show me somewhere better, present or past

Health service is a state but life expectancy continues to rise?

Prisoners are not treated well boo hoo hoo

Housing provision for the poor and benefit claimants in London is poor? Then move out of London, free up the housing the working commuters and come and live in a northern council estate. The working owners will then improve their own houses and estates.

We have some of the best FREE cancer treatment in the world and I speak from personal experience - where is better and FREE?

The high street is suffering true - that's because peoples shopping habits have changed in pursuit of cheaper goods: should we subsidise town centre retailers?

I'm sorry your losing your job. I've had to reapply for my own job 3 times in my 10 year career to date - they kept me each time cos im good, others weren't so lucky. That's life - should all jobs be guaranteed for life?

Some Kid's will always if I bad role models - what on earth is that to do with anything? Maybe if prison wasn't so nice it would put more wannabe gangsters off

You seem detached from reality, not me. Have you ever been to India, or Africa? Or USA for that matter? Or France? Or eastern Europe? Or Russia, or south America?

If you think it's bad here you really have no idea

Aside from all that what is your plan to deal with all this - I can guess it involves lots of public money? Where should this money come from?