Britain is living through the best time ever

ukcarper

Generali wrote: »

Interesting. I've found a very strong correlation between the likelihood of a place being a Hell Hole and it having a Labour council. Still correlation isn't causation.

Is the correlation that people in poorer areas are more likely to vote Labour. My council are doing better but the main town has always been better, mind you the council have increased council tax by 2% every year of the freeze.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Discussing one aspect which doesn't seem to work very well, be it house prices or our dire train infrastructure doesn't mean you hate the UK.

..but you employ the same extreme tactics.

You think housing doesn't work very well and to make your point your x axis extends only from the well off in the UK to the less well off in the UK and ignore that they're all amongst the wealthiest in global terms.

Homelessness is almost non-existent and, by and large, we club together to ensure those less fortunate get a house to live in that is safe & secure. You'd call that wearing the rosy tints I think.

People who spend too much time comparing themselves who are just a tiny bit richer than themselves are self absorbed and probably miserable too.

Loughton_Monkey

Graham_Devon wrote: »

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We need to stop pretending it's all about working more and seeking out and taking every opportunity and be humble enough to accept a lot of where we all are today is down to choices and situations that we had no part in making.

Oh dear!

I have no time to try and critique all the contradictions in your post.

But your last paragraph struck me as a typical example of your amazingly woolly thinking.

I know of no-one on these boards who would disagree with the fact that luck enters into it. Or in your exact words "situations that we had no part in making."

Certainly I had no choice but to be born to a factory worker, in a council house, in a small village.....

But to me, that screams the fact that this cannot (by definition) be changed. Thus, logically, it is about trying to change things that you can. Or in your exact words, "it's all about working more and seeking out and taking every opportunity.."

Or are you suggesting there should be a "Ministry of bad luck"? A team of highly paid civil servants paid to scour the country (or world?) to find people unlucky enough to be born in London (high house prices), or unlucky enough to live in the frozen Hebrides (very cold), and dole out loads of money to recompense them? My premium Bond didn't deliver this month. Oh dear! What is 'society' going to do about it?

Can you not notice how ridiculous it appears to write a whinging post, and then summarise it in your last paragraph by (effectively) agreeing with what the rest of us have been trying to tell you for years? You are who you are. You are where you are. That's life. That's luck. But ultimately you can only change it by your own choices and by seeking opportunities.

Liverlad67

In Britain you can get a lovely cream tea served by a hardworking East European. Our fish and chips are the best. You are sure to drive everywhere at 29mph. Our cities have the density of Tokyo at rush hour. But house prices are guaranteed to only go up that's all that seems to matter in the UK. You need to work till you drop to pay for said hutch. What's not to like. No wonder the world wants to move here. We are so lucky. Didn't mention overpriced utilities, travel, childcare. Maybe we should pay to breathe our unpolluted UK air

chucknorris

Liverlad67 wrote: »

In Britain you can get a lovely cream tea served by a hardworking East European. Our fish and chips are the best. You are sure to drive everywhere at 29mph. Our cities have the density of Tokyo at rush hour. But house prices are guaranteed to only go up that's all that seems to matter in the UK. You need to work till you drop to pay for said hutch. What's not to like. No wonder the world wants to move here. We are so lucky. Didn't mention overpriced utilities, travel, childcare. Maybe we should pay to breathe our unpolluted UK air

Life is what you make of it, my only beef is the winter weather, mainly because I like walking, running, cycling and lawn bowls. So in the warmer months I wouldn't be be anywhere else, hopefully wintering in warmer climbs following retirement will solve that problem.

Sapphire

To those who haven't been taught about our social history and think they have it so very hard in today's Britain, here are examples of the way much of the population lived as recently as in the 1960s for a comparison:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202723/Who-needs-PlayStation-Incredible-pictures-1960s-capture-days-slums-era-health-safety-ruled-children.html#comments

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Sapphire wrote: »

To those who haven't been taught about our social history and think they have it so very hard in today's Britain, here are examples of the way much of the population lived as recently as in the 1960s for a comparison:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3202723/Who-needs-PlayStation-Incredible-pictures-1960s-capture-days-slums-era-health-safety-ruled-children.html#comments

The Old Style board has some wonderful older posters describing eloquently the food and lifestyle of their childhood.

Tromking

I think the UK and its people have an enviable track record in adapting and somehow getting where it needs to be with the least fuss. We entered 20th century as a world power and left it much diminished but still influential, wealthy and a bastion for the advancement of the human condition.
The welfare state we created helped immeasurably in our transformation from a heavy industry blue collar economy to the one we see now and it is typical of the aforementioned adaptability that we are now reining in welfare.
I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Sapphire

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

The Old Style board has some wonderful older posters describing eloquently the food and lifestyle of their childhood.

What is the 'old-style board'? The board looks the same to me as it has always done.:eek:

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Sapphire wrote: »

What is the 'old-style board'? The board looks the same to me as it has always done.:eek:

Forum Jump to the Household & Travel section, and Old Style Money Saving is a sub-forum. Very helpful advice on economising in the home, especially if you need to feed a family of 4 on the dried up bits at the back of the cupboard.