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Windows 10 is using your bandwith

This is just a quick message to those using Windows 10. Microsoft made it free and readily available however since their servers would struggle to cope with such huge traffic, they came up with a way to make things smoother.

In your settings the default option is to allow peer to peer sharing, almost like torrents. This is fine unless you only have a set amount of Data you can use, otherwise it will eat it up. If you have unlimited internet it probably wont be an issue.

To turn this feature OFF, follow these given steps:

  • Go to Settings in the Start menu
  • Search for Update & Security
  • Under Windows Update, open Advanced Options
  • Under Choose How Updates are Installed, select Choose how updates are delivered
  • Disable the toggle under Updated from More than One Plac
Just thought this may help people who have downloaded it. It is hidden right in the advanced settings so you wont notice it!
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  • tronator
    tronator Posts: 2,859 Forumite
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    This is just a quick message to those using Windows 10. Microsoft made it free and readily available however since their servers would struggle to cope with such huge traffic, they came up with a way to make things smoother.

    In your settings the default option is to allow peer to peer sharing, almost like torrents. This is fine unless you only have a set amount of Data you can use, otherwise it will eat it up. If you have unlimited internet it probably wont be an issue.

    To turn this feature OFF, follow these given steps:

    • Go to Settings in the Start menu
    • Search for Update & Security
    • Under Windows Update, open Advanced Options
    • Under Choose How Updates are Installed, select Choose how updates are delivered
    • Disable the toggle under Updated from More than One Plac
    Just thought this may help people who have downloaded it. It is hidden right in the advanced settings so you wont notice it!

    If you have more than one PC, the better option would be to leave it switched on, but restrict it to "PCs on your local network". This would save you bandwith.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/windows-update-delivery-optimization-faq
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    yes interesting , when turned on , 2 options ,


    1: to your computers
    2: to act as a peer to pee to other computers on the internet


    option 2 is a no no
  • tavernman
    tavernman Posts: 575 Forumite
    yes interesting , when turned on , 2 options ,


    1: to your computers
    2: to act as a peer to pee to other computers on the internet


    option 2 is a no no
    Relieving yourself against the wall again freddie
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    apologies for the typo ,


    however Microsoft are taking thev "pee" , as bad as openreach giving the internet service you have paid for to other roaming people (fonera)






    this government has gone out of its way to ban Peer to Pee* , hell they even tried to kill pirates bay off
  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    yes interesting , when turned on , 2 options ,


    1: to your computers
    2: to act as a peer to pee to other computers on the internet


    option 2 is a no no


    Why? The files would be check summed, so it would be very difficult to tamper with them to add malware, and just like other systems it can get a file to the end user quicker.

    If you have a limited bandwidth upload allowance then I can understand you don't want to have it on, but that's the only reason why. Almost every P2P client has some options to limit its use unless the PC is idle so you probably would not even notice it if you have no cap.

    Peer to Peer isn't inherently bad. Iplayer used it at the start, many Linux distributions use it (even the Raspberry Pi) as it means people can get a file even if the originating server is overloaded.

    It will be interesting to see how the ISP's take to this, P2P links are usually throttled during peak hours, and telling these updates from more illegal content may be a hard job for the systems they use to detect say music or video sharing.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    gjchester wrote: »
    Why? The files would be check summed, so it would be very difficult to tamper with them to add malware, and just like other systems it can get a file to the end user quicker.

    If you have a limited bandwidth upload allowance then I can understand you don't want to have it on, but that's the only reason why. Almost every P2P client has some options to limit its use unless the PC is idle so you probably would not even notice it if you have no cap.

    Peer to Peer isn't inherently bad. Iplayer used it at the start, many Linux distributions use it (even the Raspberry Pi) as it means people can get a file even if the originating server is overloaded.

    It will be interesting to see how the ISP's take to this, P2P links are usually throttled during peak hours, and telling these updates from more illegal content may be a hard job for the systems they use to detect say music or video sharing.



    umm , I have not mentioned checksums , just the fact that Microsoft are allowing you , the user to assist them , without asking you , YES a lot of IPs will not be happy , and a few people with small mthly allowances are going to get a shock (actually a bill) , why have they hidden the setting? , because they did not want to tell you about it ,
  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2015 at 4:31PM
    why have they hidden the setting? , because they did not want to tell you about it ,

    I understand where you are coming from but its no more hidden than most other options in Control Panel.

    Should it be opt in, not out, maybe, but as you mentioned BT have been doing it with your Broadband for years under the FON initiative with little comment, and that's an automatic opt in too.

    To be honest if you want to worry about anything its not P2P update sharing or WiFi Sense, its the Asimov Telemetry, and Cortana that constantly send data back to Microsoft.
    Take a look here - https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10

    However remember Google do the same via Google analytics for years, and Ad Tracking has also long been typing your search and shopping adverts together.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    gjchester wrote: »
    Why? The files would be check summed, so it would be very difficult to tamper with them to add malware, and just like other systems it can get a file to the end user quicker.

    If you have a limited bandwidth upload allowance then I can understand you don't want to have it on, but that's the only reason why. Almost every P2P client has some options to limit its use unless the PC is idle so you probably would not even notice it if you have no cap.

    Peer to Peer isn't inherently bad. Iplayer used it at the start, many Linux distributions use it (even the Raspberry Pi) as it means people can get a file even if the originating server is overloaded.

    It will be interesting to see how the ISP's take to this, P2P links are usually throttled during peak hours, and telling these updates from more illegal content may be a hard job for the systems they use to detect say music or video sharing.

    There are very genuine concerns with it, think a bittorrent client running with kernel privileges. It's not the first time windows update has been used for nefarious purposes, you might want to read his snippet on BITS (background intelligent transfer service):

    http://www.securityweek.com/new-%E2%80%9Cf0xy%E2%80%9D-malware-uses-clever-techniques-stay-hidden
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • RumRat
    RumRat Posts: 5,080 Forumite
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    Get rid of all your store cards. Don't use a bank card. No ATM's. No online shopping. Don't walk the high street of any City. Don't drive a car on any major UK roads. No Facebook, Whatsapp, etc. etc. if you value your privacy.
    All of these log your activities and it's no secret that the Government has already approached supermarkets, because of the huge data bases they have on their customers.
    Paranoia can be an awful thing. Unfortunately, as a society, we have surrendered a large amount of so called 'Privacy' for convenience.
    Disable everything by all means, but, lose some functionality.
    It's a personal choice and I wouldn't stop anyone doing it any more than I would frighten them into it.:cool:;)
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 6 August 2015 at 9:56AM
    RumRat wrote: »
    Get rid of all your store cards. Don't use a bank card. No ATM's. No online shopping. .:cool:;)

    Good idea, use cash only so as to keep HMRC in the dark ;)

    Edit:

    added link:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/household-bills/11632478/HMRC-targets-Etsy-eBay-and-Gumtree-sellers-but-when-is-your-hobby-taxable.html
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
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