Gas and water wrong way round

cajef

sacsquacco wrote: »

Nowadays every visit by the various waterboard meter readers they fit the £5 dongle and never visit again.

Sorry but I have had my water meter read by SW water in the past few weeks and no one fitted a dongle.

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cajef wrote: »

Sorry but I have had my water meter read by SW water in the past few weeks and no one fitted a dongle.

Maybe Yorkshire Water are nt as inefficient as SW Water

cajef

sacsquacco wrote: »

Maybe Yorkshire Water are nt as inefficient as SW Water

True, though out of interest how are they fitted when the meter is external and about 2ft down a hole.

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cajef wrote: »

True, though out of interest how are they fitted when the meter is external and about 2ft down a hole.

same dongle..its waterproof. I m surprised that its not done by now..saves bailing out the hole sometimes to get to the meter

cajef

sacsquacco wrote: »

.saves bailing out the hole sometimes to get to the meter

Nah! mines usually full of ants when I look.:D

Skools_Out

sacsquacco wrote: »

Its not a legal requirement or I would be doing thousands of them every week.The wording , I think OFGEM specify is to "attempt " to read them once every 2 years..BG have got exemption in the two year rule and can go 5 years if they wish.They dont normally tho As I m checking prepayment meters on a one year basis.I also work for Scot Power and EDF who appear to totally ignore the two year rule altogether.We do precious few of EDF/Scot Power must inspects.Only BG act properly in this OFGEM rule of conditions of supply. It costs money to get into premises who either won t allow inspections or are rarely in

It's a licence requirement. Requires the supplier to even obtain an entry warrant if necessary. The cost will be added to the account holder's account.

Bark01

SLC wording below

12.14 Unless the Authority otherwise consents, the licensee must take all reasonable steps to ensure that it inspects, at least once every two years, any Non-Half-Hourly Meter in respect of premises at which it has at all times during that period been the Relevant Electricity Supplier.

12.15 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must be carried out by a person possessing appropriate skill and experience.
12.16 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must include:
(a) taking a meter reading; and
(b) a visual inspection of any Metering Equipment for the purpose of assessing whether:

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Bark01 wrote: »

SLC wording below

12.14 Unless the Authority otherwise consents, the licensee must take all reasonable steps to ensure that it inspects, at least once every two years, any Non-Half-Hourly Meter in respect of premises at which it has at all times during that period been the Relevant Electricity Supplier.

12.15 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must be carried out by a person possessing appropriate skill and experience.
12.16 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must include:
(a) taking a meter reading; and
(b) a visual inspection of any Metering Equipment for the purpose of assessing whether:

so theres the "cop out " line..." take all reasonable steps ".As I ve said on here many times, suppliers like EDF and Scot Power don t take a blind bit of notice of the two year inspection rule. I know, I read their must inspects and normal cyclic reads.If I do a couple a month I ve done well.There should be thousands of them to do but they virtually ignore it..because its expensive.They know OFGEM won t act against them with fines.
BG on the other hand play it straight, even though they can go to 5 years I still do hundreds of them, prepays as well. EDF and Scot Power get away with it somehow. EDF even ignore tampered meters, I sent one in to their Revenue Protection last June,,its still tampered last week with occupiers still getting free gas from an intentionally damaged and ruined gas prepayment meter.

Skools_Out

Bark01 wrote: »

SLC wording below

12.14 Unless the Authority otherwise consents, the licensee must take all reasonable steps to ensure that it inspects, at least once every two years, any Non-Half-Hourly Meter in respect of premises at which it has at all times during that period been the Relevant Electricity Supplier.

12.15 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must be carried out by a person possessing appropriate skill and experience.
12.16 An inspection under paragraph 12.14 must include:
(a) taking a meter reading; and
(b) a visual inspection of any Metering Equipment for the purpose of assessing whether:

It was my understanding that the OP was referring to their gas (and water) meter, so that leaves me a little confused why you have now muddied the waters giving SLC for electricity :huh:

Skools_Out

sacsquacco wrote: »

so theres the "cop out " line..." take all reasonable steps "....

If you want to call it a "cop out", then yes, in line with almost every rule and regulation I can think of the word "reasonable" is used.

But unlike most occasions when it is left to the courts to interpret what reasonable means, in this instance SLC 12.10 is quite specific:

12.10 In paragraph 12.8, the reference to “all reasonable steps” includes, in particular, trying to obtain a warrant under the Rights of Entry (Gas and Electricity Boards) Act 1954 in cases where the licensee could not otherwise comply with its obligation.