Green Belt Planning Permission?

Davesnave

freshfruitbandit wrote: »

You are commenting emphatically on something you know very little about. If making rude comments on the internet and trying to 'wind people up' from behind a keyboard is a chosen pastime of yours then i'll refrain from interacting with you at all the the future.

I'm happy to let my posts stand and let others decide how rude they are, compared with your responses.

What troubled me most was the suggestion that wildlife would be looked-after only conditionally:

"more wildlife will be encouraged to come to the land and be looked after if the project went ahead."

This is quite close tothe developer's carrot: "We will build X number of affordable homes, if the development of Y open market properties is approved."

So, my posts might still be useful if they cause you to consider the language used when making this proposal. It is simply no good being wound up by amateurs like me. Many people who make planning decisions are amateurs too!

I suggest that you employ a professional to present it, even if you are very confident of your abilities in technical areas.

And the best of luck!

Dan-Dan

freshfruitbandit wrote: »

The property is 100m from a train station, 30m to the nearest bus stop and the same to an A road.

Sustainable to me means that property is built using the right materials, for example the cladding comes from local woodlands, the property is heated by something like a log gasification boiler that is fuelled by waste from a local waste timber, making the most of prevailing winds, the property positioned so it takes advantage of summer and winter sun angles and the conduct a thorough ecological survey to make sure any wildlife in the area is impacted as little as possible and steps are taken to help preserve and encourage wildlife to prosper.

Of course things like recycling rain water and geothermal heating etc are also included.

I'm not doing eco for eco's sake or that i believe it's the only way i'll get planning, i have a long history of working in 'eco' industry (wind and wave), have won awards for my work and want to build something truly innovative and sustainable that is also sustainable to run.

Sounds idyllic , is there no where else but green belt it can be built on , nearby ?

AdrianC

Sorry, Bandit, but it was you who introduced the "land doing nothing" argument... If it's doing nothing, why is it doing nothing? If it's because it's so hidden by trees as to be invisible and unusable, then is there a reason the trees can't be managed better...?

Well, who else's responsibility is that but the owner of the land...?

The really cynical, given your relationship to the owner, could see raising that kind of issue as a supporting factor for a planning application as the landowner playing a long game with the intent of allowing his family to develop it.

The-Joker

freshfruitbandit wrote: »

My father owns a 1.3 acre plot of land that is at the bottom of his garden. It is linked to his garden through a small pedestrian gate and he has owned it for about 8 years. It used to be owned by the railways. It already has an access route to a road through a large gate.

It's a very rural and secluded plot of land with only one large property able to have any view of it at all.

I'd love to be able to build a modern 4 bed innovative eco home for my family on this plot of land. I want to build a property that uses things such as solar, wind, ground heat and recycled rain water to keep it's carbon footprint and utility bills to a minimum. I'd love to have my own veggie patch, keep chickens and have a garden that my kids can play football etc in.

I haven't yet started to find out how hard planning would be or what i need to do in a situation like this and was wondering if anyone, particularly architects have any advice about the best way to try and get planning permission granted or how likely it is to get it.

Thanks

Things are getting easier, the gov wants more homes.

freshfruitbandit

Dan-Dan wrote: »

Sounds idyllic , is there no where else but green belt it can be built on , nearby ?

Unfortunately not. I couldn't afford the land and then the project if there was. A piece of land was available about half a mile away but a developer bought it has has built 4 x 4 bedroom boxes on it and they are up for £500k - £600k each. Crazy money.

freshfruitbandit

AdrianC wrote: »

Sorry, Bandit, but it was you who introduced the "land doing nothing" argument... If it's doing nothing, why is it doing nothing? If it's because it's so hidden by trees as to be invisible and unusable, then is there a reason the trees can't be managed better...?

Well, who else's responsibility is that but the owner of the land...?

The really cynical, given your relationship to the owner, could see raising that kind of issue as a supporting factor for a planning application as the landowner playing a long game with the intent of allowing his family to develop it.

Right oh, thanks for input.

freshfruitbandit

The-Joker wrote: »

Things are getting easier, the gov wants more homes.

Yes but I fear I have a greater chance of planning approval if I were to build 10 new smaller eco homes on the land instead, despite the many serious negatives that would come with that option. That's what I'd be doing if it were about profits, but it's not, it's about creating and remarkable and special home and environment for me and my family.

We shall see.

Davesnave

Angelina seems to be some new kind of robot, programmed to repost bits of other people's posts in order to get her post count up.

Spam reported.

leveller2911

freshfruitbandit wrote: »

The wildlife argument doesn't really exist and more wildlife will be encouraged to come to the land and be looked after if the project went ahead.

I'm not sure your arguement stacks up there. The current thinking is not to clear land and leave fallen trees etc which encourages more wildlife than if the land was cleared.

I don't have the money to find a barn conversion, buy it and then convert it. I'd prefer to use the plot of land we have in an area i have lived in for 36 years that i believe would bring significant benefits to the area and the wildlife

I wish you luck but what you are suggesting is nothing new and has been rolled out by many people in the hope of gaining permission.

Build a house, put up a few barn owl boxes,bird boxes,bat boxes etc and claim its encouraing wildlife which it is but it doesn't mean the wildlife will move in .

There is no more merit in your plan than many others that has tried to get PP on the Green Belt.

Doozergirl

The-Joker wrote: »

Things are getting easier, the gov wants more homes.

Councils and locals do not. Therein lies the rub.