A situation that intrigues (and bothers) me

NotBothered

They dont really like having to stand up for the land-owner on here. It's more about how you should be able to park wherever you like. LOL! Dont expect any "niceness" if you are "against" the people who feel that they can park wherever they like.

Guys_Dad

NotBothered wrote: »

They dont really like having to stand up for the land-owner on here. It's more about how you should be able to park wherever you like. LOL! Dont expect any "niceness" if you are "against" the people who feel that they can park wherever they like.

No. We are against the ridiculous charging (£100) for a minor transgression and the absolute refusal of most PPCs to consider genuine mitigation.

It is NOT about park where you like and if you even took the time to read posts from the regulars you would see that your post is not only ill informed but unworthy.

Redx

NotBothered wrote: »

They dont really like having to stand up for the land-owner on here. It's more about how you should be able to park wherever you like. LOL! Dont expect any "niceness" if you are "against" the people who feel that they can park wherever they like.

there are more assumptions in that statement than the number of actual words

I dont see anybody who has replied who believes that what you have said is true

I believe in the rights of the landowner, including me and my own drive

what the "people on here" object to is the implementation of honeytraps by silly made up rules where any punishment doesnt fit the "crime" or no compassion for the unwary or foolhardy or disabled or whatever problem somebody has (like overstaying on a car park whilst spending their hard earned cash in the supermarket , cafe , opticians , petrol station , lottery terminal and "paper shop" where the retailer has invited them to park and some jumped up cowboy outfit deems that they broke a rule like overstaying, tyre on a white line , bumper overhanging the edge of a line , permit or blue badge or paid for ticket upside down , or many other ills that befall the unwary)

I havent seen any issues on here where its "us" or a member of the forum or similar against a landowner, in fact most landowners do the "right thing" when faced with the truth of the matter

its parking companies who have no rights, no contracts and flout the law that gets people annoyed and fighting back

find me one thread where its a person versus a landowner , just one , pleeeeease !

I will always back a landowner who wants his rights respected about his or her land

in fact , we have tried to on several occasions, like this thread here for example

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5259477

and this one

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5077669

and this one

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4882238

is this fair or compassionate ?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5285379

does the landowner (a hospital trust) really agree that his or her rights are being infringed, or is he oblivious to the situation regarding this disabled person who has rights under the EA2010 and the BPA CoP says if the vehicle displays a BB it should not be ticketed ?

its the cowboy scumpanies who set out to take us all for a ride, usually without a landowners consent, that we fight against

the retailers and landowners in the Beavis case are not happy about the situation on their car park , PE are fighting that one on their own

so your assertion has no merit ! its fiction

Ivor_Pecheque

When Parking Eye and their Partners, Fistral, took me to Court (I'm not sure if I've mentioned it, but they lost), there was a "stock" question going around from one of their LPC lawyers,

"Well, how would you like it if someone parked on your drive....."

In anticipation of this, my answer would have been, "If I had a multi-million retail complex in my back garden, with big signs on the entry road saying "Park Here" then the more the merrier...."

Never got to that stage, as the lawyer didn't seem to have much of an idea about what was going on :-)


Not quite sure what your question has to do with parking though gutt3d, there are alternative remedies for your hypothetical problem I suspect.

pogofish

NotBothered wrote: »

They dont really like having to stand up for the land-owner on here. It's more about how you should be able to park wherever you like. LOL! Dont expect any "niceness" if you are "against" the people who feel that they can park wherever they like.

Another off-topic, thread hijack from this one!

Ivor_Pecheque

and personally, I'd like to have the knowledge and experience to advise landowners how to manage their parking robustly and fairly. I'm often asked, and am learning all the time.

I suspect what drives people on here, is the fact that vulnerable people are taken advantage of, at the expense of a quick buck.

Umkomaas

I've kept out of this so far.

The OP seems to want to use the forum in a similar way to a chat-line, with hypotheticals and 'what ifs'. This isn't Facebook or Twitter; no one is wanting to be anyone's friend; no one wants to 'follow' anyone else, but all regulars are prepared to roll their sleeves up, together, to help those with real problems with the private parking skimdustry.

We are about helping people with real issues (too many people with difficulties) not endlessly chewing the cud! Time is too precious for that, especially as it has been regurgitated and re-chewed more times than a cow with a gut full of grass!

I would be surprised if the Chinese takeaway were the landowners in any case, possibly one of a number of outlets sharing a parking lot, but if not, they would be unlikely to have employed a PPC - more likely the managing agent of the plot would have done that (but not the landowner - so locus standi issues). But all utterly hypothetical, and, without full information, pointless, and taking us all around in circles!

bazster

Oh wow, the "what if someone parked on my drive" thing again. We've never seen that before have we? And guess what, NotBovvered is back to ignore (again) any and every logical explanation put to him about the difference between upholding one's rights and deliberate entrapment and extortion. So I won't bother.

HO87

NotBothered wrote: »

They dont really like having to stand up for the land-owner on here. It's more about how you should be able to park wherever you like. LOL! Dont expect any "niceness" if you are "against" the people who feel that they can park wherever they like.

I rarely, if ever, pitch in to inane and trolling posts but this is thoroughly deserving of a moment's effort. Once again the post is composed of utter nonsense and, what is more, the poster knows it.

None of the regulars here support or ever have supported "parking wherever they like". The thing that is criticised - and properly so - is the wanton profiteering of self-appointed parking Gods. It is they who have no concern for the rights or interests of the landowner by shamelessly exploiting those rights to trouser large amounts of cash.

As an aside, on a regular basis (for the past 38 years) I have regularly and willingly supported landowners in dealing with and ultimately ejecting unwanted visitors or those who have sought to exploit their rights. I continue to do so. There are others who are regulars here who act in a similar role.

I am more than willing to cut the OP some slack. To have identified the subject of the thread as being the single most likely topic to press the "troll" button is something of an ask. That said a little more thought about the differences that might exist between a public parking area (it is an area to which the public are invited to park on the basis that they are going to be a customer) and a private driveway (for which no such general licence is offered) might have prevented things from escalating.

Quentin

Umkomaas wrote: »

I've kept out of this so far.

The OP seems to want to use the forum in a similar way to a chat-line, with hypotheticals and 'what ifs'. This isn't Facebook or Twitter; no one is wanting to be anyone's friend; no one wants to 'follow' anyone else, but all regulars are prepared to roll their sleeves up, together, to help those with real problems with the private parking skimdustry.

We are about helping people with real issues (too many people with difficulties) not endlessly chewing the cud! Time is too precious for that, especially as it has been regurgitated and re-chewed more times than a cow with a gut full of grass!
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Where does it say the OP was wrong to post here?


All it says about the motoring forum is that it's:

A special section for all things cars and motoring

And wrongly says this about this section:

If you've had a fine or worse and want to discuss it here's the place to do it

The OP is entitled to post what he likes and doesn't deserve all the unpleasantness aimed at him.


You and the others who have delighted in bashing him just show your true colours.


We are asked to be nice to be newbies, yet often see them knocked back like this here.


Luckily there are plenty of other "regulars" who attempt to redress the poor impression of those who see this as their domain!


No-one forces you to post in reply to threads you aren't interested in.


As you consider your time "too precious" to respond to the OP, how come you used some of it up to "show him"?