Budget Changes for Motoring

Iceweasel

Aretnap wrote: »

Hee hee - so does that mean we'll be allowed to call it "road tax" again without annoying pedants jumping in?

No chance of that - it's not a tax.

It's the Road Fund - brought back after 60 years.

The Road Fund was abolished in 1955 - Road Tax was abolished in 1936.

Yay - pedants rule. :rotfl:

If something is worth talking about, it's worth getting it's name right.

I'll be calling it Road Fund from now on.

We still wont get any better roads though - it would take till next century just to fill all the potholes.

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Should scrap MOT for cars over 10 years old like what they did with even older cars because us banger owners look after our cars.

wongataa

Johno100 wrote: »

It'll also be open season on those tax dodging lycra louts, clogging up the roads and not contributing to their maintenance.:D

But as the tax is on emissions bicycles pay as much as the many zero emission vehicles just as they do now

maninthestreet

AdrianC wrote: »

Yep.

From 2017 all new cars will be three bands.
- ZEV - £0
- "Normal" - £150ish - "95% of all cars
- "Premium" - no figure announced.

Older cars unchanged.

ALL VED receipts to be hypothecated for a "road fund" - to go to building new roads and maintaining existing ones.

I think it's "Standard", not "Premium", and £140 p.a, not £150.

Iceweasel

Iceweasel wrote: »

I'll be calling it Road Fund from now on.

Or maybe I won't.

The BBC key points page says this:

No rise in fuel duty this year with rates continuing to be frozen.

Major reform to vehicle excise duties to pay for a new road-building and maintenance fund in England.

New VED bands for brand new cars to be introduced from 2017, pegged to emissions for the first year. Subsequently, 95% of car owners will pay a flat fee of £140 a year

No new roads or repairs for Northern Ireland, Scotland, or Wales then??

AdrianC

Iceweasel wrote: »

No new roads or repairs for Northern Ireland, Scotland, or Wales then??

Devolved to Stormont/Edinburgh/Cardiff, so George has no say over them.

They'll continue to get the funds under their devolution agreements to do with as they wish.

tinkerbell28

So the MOT thing, is that from now or at a later date? I've got a car from new, due MOT in October. So will that now be next October?

Iceweasel

AdrianC wrote: »

Devolved to Stormont/Edinburgh/Cardiff, so George has no say over them.

They'll continue to get the funds under their devolution agreements to do with as they wish.

Thanks for that clarification Adrian.

So the Road Fund can only be an English thing.

Presumably then the EVEL (some say EVIL) proposals would mean that only English MPs could vote on passing that bit of the budget?

What a shambles the (non)-United Kingdom has become.

AdrianC

Iceweasel wrote: »

So the Road Fund can only be an English thing.

Yep, because that's the only bit of the UK that George has any say over road expenditure. Even then, most of the actual maintenance and building is done at Local Authority level - it's only trunk routes that are direct Westminster expenditure. So this fund is just going to be a different route for LAs to fund their maintenance - how that'll affect their existing funding (only about 25% of their income is council tax, much of the rest is central gov't) is anybody's guess. <thinks> Well, no, it probably isn't...

Presumably then the EVEL (some say EVIL) proposals would mean that only English MPs could vote on passing that bit of the budget?

Nobody can answer that, because it's all vague future hand-wavy plans.

Herzlos

Marktheshark wrote: »

He should have abolished VED and put it on fuel.
Gas guzzlers pay more
Frugal cars pay less.

It'd also make it impossible to avoid, and you'd pay more tax from driving less efficiently or driving a poorly maintained vehicle. You'd also save an absolute fortune in management/enforcement.

It's such an ideal system they'll never do it.