Rubbish removal from a house i sold

Dan-Dan

pinkteapot wrote: »

Did the buyer ask about the stairlift? I've viewed properties with stairlifts twice in the past and I've always just assumed they'd be staying (and that I'd have to remove them). It never occurred to me that the seller would arrange for removal. The buyer may well have thought the same.

If it's removed, you'll have to ensure that all the holes in the wall are made good (including decorating over). There'll be something in the paperwork about making good any damage (our seller took curtain poles and had to make the walls good where they'd been removed).

I know its in the paperwork etc , but i know from experience , your better off doing it yourself, and after all (says the vendor) who`s going to go to court for some screw holes in the walls!!

lessonlearned

Of course everything was made good After the stairlift was removed, what do you take me for......

I am a decent considerate human being.

Plus

I have worked in the housing industry for over 30 years, as a letting agent, an EA, on new builds, selling property abroad and finally as a manager in a sheltered housing complex.

I leave nothing to chance.

I can tell you stories that would make your hair curl.

Ive seen buyers in tears at the disgusting flea pits the owners left, unsafe electrics with trailing wire where light fittings have been ripped out, gardens full of dog poo, toilets blocked with human excrement, houses full of filthy disgusting rubbish, drains blocked with nappies, rats, mice and all manner of vermin, doors kicked in or hanging off their hinges, wash hand basins ripped off the walls.

how anyone can even begin to think it is acceptable to leave a property in such a state is beyond me, but ive seen it over and over again

You wouldn't believe how low some people can sink.

mrstick

Just for extra info:


TA6 14.4


Will the seller ensure that:


a) all rubbish is removed from the property (including from the loft, garden, outbuildings, garages and sheds) and that the property will be left in a clean and tidy condition? Y/N


So I imagine that they should have ticked No and then left it to the sols.

lessonlearned

mrstick wrote: »

Just for extra info:


TA6 14.4


Will the seller ensure that:


a) all rubbish is removed from the property (including from the loft, garden, outbuildings, garages and sheds) and that the property will be left in a clean and tidy condition? Y/N


So I imagine that they should have ticked No and then left it to the sols.

Yes you can but I wouldn't and I would never have advised any of my clients to do so so either because leaving it in the hands of the solicitors can cause delays

The aim of the game when buying and selling is to do everything possible to speed up the process and avoid unnecessary delays. The more delays, the greater the risk of the sale falling through.

1in 3 sales fails to complete. Why would you want to increase the odds of a failure.

And yes removal of rubbish and unwanted furniture is a legal requirement. If an item is not included in the sale then it has to be removed.

It is written into the contract and is a condition of the mortgage offer. The TA6 is a pre contract enquiry.

The contract cannot be drawn up until both solicitors are happy all questions in the TA6 have been answered in a satisfactory manner, and that where necessary, there is supporting evidence.

Failure to answer the question of whether rubbish will be removed in the affirmative will raise the suspicion of outstanding issues or potential difficulties and will most likely cause a delay until the issues have been thrashed out and the purchasers solicitor is happy to proceed.

Both solicitors will want confirmation of what items are to be included in the sale and any specific exclusions so why not make it clear at the outset and save time.

Vacant possession means exactly that and it is the responsibility of purchasers' solicitor to ensure that that is what the purchaser gets.

For a more detailed explanation see https://www.mundys.co.uk

Pages 4 and 5.

To get back to the wretched stairlift, the purchaser did not include it in her offer, in fact she does not want anything.....can't say as I blame her.;)

My parents were 88 when they left the house, mum to a nursing home and dad to sheltered accommodation. The house is in a sorry state and needs a total refurb. It will be made as clean as we can make it under the circumstances and all furniture, personal effects, and rubbish will be removed. I have spent the last month or so on that very task. My sister and I have even tried to tidy up the garden a bit for her, it was a weed infested jungle.

It is highly unlikely she will be moving in immediately because the house has been standing empty for over 18 months and is not really fit for habitation in its current state.

She knows this and has no concerns, however the least we can do is leave it empty and tidy and make sure there are no wild animals lurking in the undergrowth.:rotfl:

DaftyDuck

Hi, lessonlearned...

The aim of the game when buying and selling is to do everything possible to speed up the process and avoid unnecessary delays. The more delays, the greater the risk of the sale falling through.

2 days from market to offer, eighteen to exchange, seven more to completion. Fast enough for you?:D

Sitting in the garden drinking beer with the buyer, whose "wife will pick me up", discussing the logistics of getting things moving, what "rubbish" he wanted (spare loft ladder and door, paint and tiles, not the old garden benches) helps... until it turns out my wife & his had the same idea, and had hit the bottle as well. They walked home...



Being nice to a prospective buyer works, it really does. As proven by the above timescale, and us now sitting elsewhere, surrounded by boxes and cats. Unpacking begins!

lessonlearned

Fantastic, great result. Technically you could have exchanged and completed on same day and made it even faster......only pulling your leg.

No that is truly a brilliant result and shows it can be done.

And yes I agree wholeheartedly - it pays both purchasers and vendors to be nice to each other. A little co-operation goes a long way, even better when you can sit round the table and have a drink.

Good luck in your new home.

DaftyDuck

Renting while we buy the next one. The decor in this one is ...... eyewatering. Classical neo-Greek, a hint of minimalism, 1980's inglenook fireplace, acid-etched glass to doors with fleur de lis, red wall to dado rail, cream above, velveteen (?) curtains.... it is reminiscent of a Hammer Film set. Simply.... indescribable....

As for same-day exchange & completion.... nightmare! took the removals 3 days to pack and load.... and all that before the deal is confirmed? Beers in the garden with the buyer is far more relaxing!

That is the third-fastest house sale I've done. .... but I have had an eighteen - monther, so not always so fast....

lessonlearned

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Renting while we buy the next one. The decor in this one is ...... eyewatering. Classical neo-Greek, a hint of minimalism, 1980's inglenook fireplace, acid-etched glass to doors with fleur de lis, red wall to dado rail, cream above, velveteen (?) curtains.... it is reminiscent of a Hammer Film set. Simply.... indescribable....

Sounds like the owner is suffering from a mild case of multiple personality disorder. :rotfl:

Either that or has a done a dodgy correspondence course in interior design........

Heres hoping you soon find your dream home and it will be a short rental.

I agree there is no way I would contemplate exchanging and completing on the same day. I would end up in ICU.

Chanes

They have the right to charge you the removal costs. We had things we could have chased to have removed but I couldn't be bothered going legal and shifted it myself. But people are all different.

Jhoney_2

There is a legal/moral requirement to do so, however when I bought my current home, the loft was floor to ceiling full and all the kitchen units still full of their stuff. She was still present when I arrived and when asked said 'she didn't get the help promised by her sons - but they will be back for the kids bed for my grandson!'.. and off she went into the sunset.

I had presumed this would not happen, even though the answer was clearly yes to that question. Out of curiosity at the time I called my solicitor and they shrugged their shoulders but eventually called vendors solicitor who was advised ' vendor says your client was aware and had okayed this???lol)

Obv, nonsense but that was as far as that got - perhaps my poor choice of solicitor, but Vendor was leaving the country so what use to take it further other than waste my time?

I got a company in to remove attic stuff/rubbish, boxed up the glasses/crockery etc for recycling at the tip and the same plus a gardener/landscaper to tackle Jumanji and all trace of them was gone in 2 weeks...

The extraction of the the 7o's blue movie film-set took a lot longer - and not by choice!

For me and given what needed to be done regardless, it wasn't worth the time or effort to pursue on a moral stance, but isn't fair and should not be seen as such.

The OP has already probably taken the shine off the purchase for the buyer and she/husband are stressed for a small task that could have gone into the removal van in the short term.