Rubbish removal from a house i sold

HappyMJ

lessonlearned wrote: »

just completed the forms for The sale of my parents house and yes it's there in black and white.

In fact I had an alrighty row with dad over it because we need to get mums stairlift removed and the company make a charge.

Dad said he wasn't going to,pay it and it was up to the new owners.

It took me several attempts to get through to,him that it was a legal obligation to clear all rubbish etc. and that as the stair lift was not required by the new owner he could not get away with calling it a fixture or fitting :rotfl:

In the end I said if he felt that aggrieved then I would pay to have the blasted Thing removed. He felt ashamed then and agreed to comply, but he has done nothing but whinge about it.

I don't think you can answer no to the question, my understanding is that it is legal requirement that you must clear all rubbish etx. failure to do so could land you in court.

Why can't you answer no to that question? A house can be sold full of rubbish but you can't state it will all be removed then leave it there you 'll be liable for it's removal so you could answer no if you wanted to. Then it's up to the buyers solicitor to inform the buyer if they wish to continue with the purchase.

Semple

I imagine he/she has read the comments and now realises how ridiculous they are being.

You can take your chances at court, but it sounds likely you'll get whacked with the skip costs and lumped with the court charges. All for the sake of a trip to clear up your rubbish.

LannieDuck

dodger1 wrote: »

Maybe they are being petty because of the OP. Reading her rant makes me wonder if there were other problems with OP during the whole process.

Does seem odd that the buyers are kicking up such a fuss about it. They've been sending letters through their solicitor - that's not cheap. Probably would have cost less to just pay for a skip themselves.

I agree that there must be more to the story.

TBagpuss

lessonlearned wrote: »

just completed the forms for The sale of my parents house and yes it's there in black and white.

In fact I had an alrighty row with dad over it because we need to get mums stairlift removed and the company make a charge.

Dad said he wasn't going to,pay it and it was up to the new owners.

It took me several attempts to get through to,him that it was a legal obligation to clear all rubbish etc. and that as the stair lift was not required by the new owner he could not get away with calling it a fixture or fitting :rotfl:

In the end I said if he felt that aggrieved then I would pay to have the blasted Thing removed. He felt ashamed then and agreed to comply, but he has done nothing but whinge about it.

I don't think you can answer no to the question, my understanding is that it is legal requirement that you must clear all rubbish etx. failure to do so could land you in court.

Actually, you could simply have declared on the TA10 that the stairlift would remain, and have left it up to the buyers to specifically request it be removed, or negotiate a reduction to cover the cost of removing it themselves, although of course your dad might well still have ended up paying the cost of getting in uninstalled.

quidsy

OP has to be a troll, no one can be that ignorant

lincroft1710

quidsy wrote: »

no one can be that ignorant

You must be one of those extremely fortunate people who have only ever had dealings with intelligent, logical and sane members of the population.

mrstick

HappyMJ wrote: »

So all the OP had to do was answer no to that question. The sale would have gone through as normal and the buyer would have had no comeback...is that all?

I don't even remember that question.

(edit) I just dug out the form...is that the TA6 form? Nothing mentions the property will be clear of rubbish. Do you have a different form?

I'm sure it's the TA6, but I can't check ours now. It could be the inventory one though, I've seen so many forms this last few weeks that they're all a blur!

Sure it's the same form that asks about Japanese Knotweed though.

lessonlearned

HappyMJ wrote: »

Why can't you answer no to that question? A house can be sold full of rubbish but you can't state it will all be removed then leave it there you 'll be liable for it's removal so you could answer no if you wanted to. Then it's up to the buyers solicitor to inform the buyer if they wish to continue with the purchase.

Maybe you can - Ive no idea......but why would I.

I would prefer to do the decent thing and clear my goods, chattels and rubbish. It would never occur to leave a mess for someone else to clean up, with or without a clause in the contract.;)

lessonlearned

TBagpuss wrote: »

Actually, you could simply have declared on the TA10 that the stairlift would remain, and have left it up to the buyers to specifically request it be removed, or negotiate a reduction to cover the cost of removing it themselves, although of course your dad might well still have ended up paying the cost of getting in uninstalled.

This was my under standing, but why go out of the way to be awkward. Why jeopardise the sale, why upset the purchaser. Why not just do the honourable thing in the first place.

The purchaser is a young woman in no need of a stairlift, a FTB and unsure of proceedure. I felt my dad was being unhelpful, mean and spiteful and trying to take advantage of her inexperience.

The only reason he put up a fight is because he cannot bear putting his hand in his pocket, the old skinflint. He's walking away with over £100k clear profit and he objects to paying £180 to have a stairlift removed.

I have to say that if I were a purchaser who walked in and found it I would have been furious, but then again im not wet behind the ears. I would not exchange contracts until I had done a final inspection and assured myself that either it had been removed or if the owner was still in residence and needed it, then firm arrangements were in place for its removal.

pinkteapot

Did the buyer ask about the stairlift? I've viewed properties with stairlifts twice in the past and I've always just assumed they'd be staying (and that I'd have to remove them). It never occurred to me that the seller would arrange for removal. The buyer may well have thought the same.

If it's removed, you'll have to ensure that all the holes in the wall are made good (including decorating over). There'll be something in the paperwork about making good any damage (our seller took curtain poles and had to make the walls good where they'd been removed).