Dangerous driving and excess speed

Johno100

brat wrote: »

Ambulance, police and fire have to undergo training before they are exempt the speed limit for their purposes.

And even then they don't always get it right.



:rotfl:

Aretnap

Xorph wrote: »

I was hoping for SRNTE?

Perhaps, if the magistrates can be persuaded that the emergency was serious enough to justify the risks of a driver with no special training driving at 105mph in a 30 limit. That's likely to be an uphill struggle - as above even professionally trained police and ambulance drivers with flashing lights and sirens would rarely drive at such speeds.

Once again, see a solicitor. Dangerous driving carries a mandatory one year ban and possible jail time. You do not want to be relying on Internet advice with that at stake.

Tobster86

Absolutely not the most appropriate question; but what car was it?

rudekid48

I don't care what the circumstances where, that speed in a 30 at any time of day or night is effing reckless.

Nilrem

dannyrst wrote: »

Assuming police car caught them and recorded. You can be done for speeding twice if it is two different roads I believe?

You can IIRC be done twice on the same road by the same camera a few minutes apart.

What the OP has described is either a wind up, or someone who really desperately needs to think a little more in emergencies.

Even the Emergency services, in vehicles that are lit up like christmas trees with sirens (and much better maintained than 95% of private cars) and drivers with specialist training would rarely do 130 on the motorway, let alone 100 in a 30.

I suspect if it's real the op is in for a lengthy ban, and extended retest if not possibly jail and ban.

Nilrem

matttye wrote: »

Emergency is one of the reasons where the court can find special reasons not to disqualify or impose penalty points.

You should consult a solicitor for legal advice. Depending on your earnings you may qualify for legal aid. Dangerous driving is an easy offence to get legal aid so it will just come down to your income.

Emergencies can.
But I suspect in the case the op has described it wouldn't, as it's more for things like being slightly over the limit not nearly double the national limit, and three times the posted limit.

It's the sort of speeds what the Emergency services wouldn't allow their drivers to do or would only allow the highest trained level of drivers, in specifically chosen cars with probably uprated brakes to do in exceptional situations.

Happychappy

Xorph wrote: »

The 30 is a very wide two lane road, countryside, 2am, straight with good visibility. Houses very well set back, gated with private drives.

Sounds positively idyllic how can you not speed on a road like that, plus everyone in the hamlet knows not to be out on the road at that time, so absolutely no risk, and did I mention I am a fully trained advanced driver, trained by Jeremy something.

Surprised at those speeds one can notice all these things and still smell the flowers, or the trolls.

xHannahx

105 in a 30 could well be custodial. Someone we know got 3 months custodial for 78 in a 30

matttye

Need to seek legal advice as you may have the defence of necessity/duress of circumstances. It depends on the severity of your husband's condition.

The courts have been willing to accept a threat to life or even a mistaken perceived threat to life as a defence.

In R v Conway [1988], the defendant was convicted in the Crown Court after the trial judge ruled he could not raise the defence of necessity, but appealed to the Court of Appeal and his conviction was quashed. He had a passenger in his car who had been shot at a couple of weeks previously and, on this occasion, believing he was being followed by the gunmen, he drove off at speed and recklessly. The car following him was actually driven by plain clothes police officers.

The Court of Appeal said the question should have been left to the jury.

patman99

Even rapid response paramedics have limits they cannot go above.
For instance, 100 mph on a dual carriage way with a 70 mph limit and on all other roads they can only top the speed limit by 20 mph.

Hope you get a cell with a nice view of the exercise yard.