Accident; who's to blame?

shaun_from_Africa

pendragon_arther wrote: »

. Another hand signal is with the arm outstretched and is waved up and down to indicate you are slowly down and for other road users to overtake.

There is no correct signal to inform other vehicles to overtake you.
If another driver sees you slowing down, it is for them to decide to overtake or not.

pendragon_arther

Apologies, I obviously didn't make myself clear enough for pedantics.

If the 'I am about to make a manoeuvre to the left so you can overtake if it is safe to do so' hand signal was used in this case instead of the blinking signal 'I am about to turn into the turning ahead' signal then I very much doubt if an accident would have occurred.

BeenThroughItAll

pendragon_arther wrote: »

Apologies, I obviously didn't make myself clear enough for pedantics.

Erm... It's 'pedants'.

Car_54

pendragon_arther wrote: »

Apologies, I obviously didn't make myself clear enough for pedantics.

If the 'I am about to make a manoeuvre to the left so you can overtake if it is safe to do so' hand signal was used in this case instead of the blinking signal 'I am about to turn into the turning ahead' signal then I very much doubt if an accident would have occurred.

It's nothing to do with pedantics, or even pedants. The hand signal means "I intend to move in to the left or turn left". The left indicator means exactly the same.

You really do need to read the Highway Code.

Strider590

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Erm... It's 'pedants'.

I prefer "pedantites" plural and "pendantasaurus" singular :cool:

anotherbaldrick

I think the art of safe driving is to always be mindful of the "WHAT IFFS" !
What if that car approaching is being driven by an old lady with failing eyesight and can't see over the steering wheel
What if that car coming round the roundabout indicating left is actually going for the second exit .
What if that car on the left going into the junction not indicating is actually going to turn right .
What if the car approaching indicating left is not aiming for the junction but the driveway just past it.

Experience anticipation and second sight only will save you, if you live long enough to garner some.

pendragon_arther

Car_54 wrote: »

It's nothing to do with pedantics, or even pedants. The hand signal means "I intend to move in to the left or turn left". The left indicator means exactly the same.

You really do need to read the Highway Code.

I must admit I haven't read it for 42 years, but then again I've never had an accident either. And do you agree or not that using that hand signal by B would possibly have been a better signal than using the car's indicator to turn left and have prevented the accident? TIA

bigadaj

pendragon_arther wrote: »

I must admit I haven't read it for 42 years, but then again I've never had an accident either. And do you agree or not that using that hand signal by B would possibly have been a better signal than using the car's indicator to turn left and have prevented the accident? TIA

No..........

Laz123

pendragon_arther wrote: »

I must admit I haven't read it for 42 years, but then again I've never had an accident either. And do you agree or not that using that hand signal by B would possibly have been a better signal than using the car's indicator to turn left and have prevented the accident? TIA

I've been in this situation and can see where you're coming from. Younger drivers don't seem to realise the importance of old style hand signals any more. A while back I was waiting to come out of a T junction intending to turn right and an approaching car driven by an older guy used the 'I intend to move out to the left or turn left' hand signal instead of using the car's indicator which stopped me from assuming he was going to turn into the road I was coming out of. In fact he passed by and turned left immediately after my junction into a side road. Otherwise I could possibly have moved off and he would have smacked into the side of my car. And yes I would have been at fault.

Nessun_Dorma

jordanw wrote: »

Good Afternoon All!

With two cars involved, imagine if you will: Car A was pulling out of a junction to turn right into a main road with medium traffic. Car B is driving towards the junction and indicates.

Car A emerges from the junction and the two collide because Car B was actually indicating to turn into a driveway after the junction.

If Car B is adamant they'd indicated after the junction.

How would this be perceived by insurers??

Thanks all!

If the collision occurred at the junction, how could the driver of car B be adamant he indicated after the junction, when he didn't make it passed the junction?

I am not sure how much of a difference it makes, but he seems to be admitting that he at least indicated. If it was impossible to indicate after the junction, he must have indicated before the junction.