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Letting with pets
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We are particularly fond of Tiddles. More to life than money.
Here's an outlandish thought: maybe our LL is happy to risk a little extra wear and tear in exchange for reliable tenants who never miss a payment and (partially due to Tiddles) are so settled they haven't bothered moving for quite a while.
An outlandish thought indeed.
So why did you lie to him from the outset?0 -
I returned from Spain with 3 dogs and 4 cats - (well, I came back before they did) and arranged a let in a 3 bed semi in Chessington.
With that many pets we had to be very up front with agents and that is the approach I took - we were happy to pay an additional months rent as deposit in case of issues. I have moved twice since my return (not my fault, returning landlord in both cases) and handed the properties over after a GBP 300 professional clean (not bad for a 3 bed house and including all carpets) and the estate agent involved (same for all moves) and the owners both expressed surprise that you would not have known any animal - let alone 7 - had lived in the house. No smells, mess or damage.
On both occasions full deposit returned - no quibbles.
We are conscious of the fact that we have to look after the properties we rent - straightforward responsibility tinged with fear of losing deposit money - and maintain the property on that basis.
It aint hard - you just have to keep the house clean.
Riccal0 -
People rent for many reasons, buying isnt the be all and end of.
That's exactly what a decent landlord would do. Unfortunately it appears you dont fulfil that criteria, and why you wouldnt be getting my money
A LL is not a charity, the property is often their pension. Would you put your pension at risk for someone else's benefit?
LL's are ordinary people with their own problems and daily stresses, most of us like you will take the least stressful option. It's all very well saying you would ensure the property would be handed back as found but the real world experience is often quite different and people soon forget the kindness the LL gave if the LL one day suggests the pet has caused 'x' damage.
How are you putting yourself out for others right now seeing as you suggest it's a LL's duty? Perhaps you lend your car to the local wino's for the weekend.0 -
A LL is not a charity, the property is often their pension. Would you put your pension at risk for someone else's benefit? - The LL has put his pension at risk by putting it into a rental property. That's already happened.
LL's are ordinary people with their own problems and daily stresses, most of us like you will take the least stressful option. It's all very well saying you would ensure the property would be handed back as found but the real world experience is often quite different and people soon forget the kindness the LL gave if the LL one day suggests the pet has caused 'x' damage. - That's what the courts are for. No-one is forced to invest in property - which is like running a business. If they arent upto it, i can suggest other investment opportunities.
How are you putting yourself out for others right now seeing as you suggest it's a LL's duty? Perhaps you lend your car to the local wino's for the weekend. - Can you please point out where i said it was their 'duty'. I believe I used the words, a decent landlord. There are plenty of thorughly undecent landlords, and he or she is able to join that list if they wish.
I dont have a car..0 -
As with all investing each individual defines the sorts of risk they feel comfortable with.
Many wish to minimise risk as thus have a ban on things like pets. It certainly doesn't make them nasty people or inefficient LLs.
It's the same with pubs and such like, some owners would rather not run the extra risks and hassles.
There will be things you personally find unacceptable in your own life, does this render you nasty / idiotic?
On a final note I am a member of my local Wildlife Trust and we see the great damage done by cats, an alien species. One could easily argue that your desire to cuddle a cat is pretty selfish in the great scheme. I put my need for a cat after the needs of wildlife, pretty selfless in fact.0 -
As with all investing each individual defines the sorts of risk they feel comfortable with.
Many wish to minimise risk as thus have a ban on things like pets. It certainly doesn't make them nasty people or inefficient LLs. - Read link provided earlier, as to why an outright ban is not a good idea.
It's the same with pubs and such like, some owners would rather not run the extra risks and hassles. - Not sure what pubs has to do with tenants?
There will be things you personally find unacceptable in your own life, does this render you nasty / idiotic? - Plenty of things. Feel free to form your own opinion.
On a final note I am a member of my local Wildlife Trust and we see the great damage done by cats, an alien species. One could easily argue that your desire to cuddle a cat is pretty selfish in the great scheme - A species which has been in the UK longer than the wildlife trust has existed? One could easily argue the cats have more of a say than you do
Opinions, every has one.0 -
As with all investing each individual defines the sorts of risk they feel comfortable with.
Many wish to minimise risk as thus have a ban on things like pets. It certainly doesn't make them nasty people or inefficient LLs.
It's the same with pubs and such like, some owners would rather not run the extra risks and hassles.
There will be things you personally find unacceptable in your own life, does this render you nasty / idiotic?
On a final note I am a member of my local Wildlife Trust and we see the great damage done by cats, an alien species. One could easily argue that your desire to cuddle a cat is pretty selfish in the great scheme. I put my need for a cat after the needs of wildlife, pretty selfless in fact.
Where is the evidence that cats harm wildlife? I've seen research from the RSPB that certainly as far as birds go cats mostly just take out the sick, elderly and injured who wouldn't make it for much longer anyway. (Especially the well fed pet cats with no need to hunt!)
Also, not all cats go outside. My two are indoor because I don't want them getting run over, shot by a psycho with an air gun, or !!!!ing off my neighbours by crapping in their gardens.0 -
And that's the issue
I have heard horror stories of flea infestations, dogs chewing everything, cats scratching the backs of furniture... and to me its just too much risk and hassle to take.
If I caught someone, they would get notice ASAP. Luckily most tenants are more honest than that.
If you want the stability of a home to keep your kids or pets, buy a house. Don't expect a decent LL to provide you one.
Ordinarily I would agree that working adults cause less wear and tear than families with children and/or pets (in fact I have just been giving my reasons on another thread). In all fairness I have to say that my worst ever experience as a landlord came from working adults - only because while just two of them signed the tenancy upwards of 10 and 12 were actually living in a 2 bed 1 bath flat. They were hospital workers including nurses, porters and cleaners and would rotate the beds and sofa according to their shifts.0 -
Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »Ordinarily I would agree that working adults cause less wear and tear than families with children and/or pets (in fact I have just been giving my reasons on another thread). In all fairness I have to say that my worst ever experience as a landlord came from working adults - only because while just two of them signed the tenancy upwards of 10 and 12 were actually living in a 2 bed 1 bath flat. They were hospital workers including nurses, porters and cleaners and would rotate the beds and sofa according to their shifts.
A salutary tale - this is why I make friends with one of the neighbours around my BTLs. Always useful to have someone local keeping an eye out for this sort of abuse of trust.
TBH, you should have caught this early on in one of your 3 monthly inspection visits.
Never hurts to let the tenants know you are keeping an eye on them0 -
A salutary tale - this is why I make friends with one of the neighbours around my BTLs. Always useful to have someone local keeping an eye out for this sort of abuse of trust.
TBH, you should have caught this early on in one of your 3 monthly inspection visits.
Never hurts to let the tenants know you are keeping an eye on them
Not enough, I suggest CCTV in every room (3 in the bathroom), make them where a tag too.0
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