it makes me so angry when cyclists refuse to obey traffic signs

pinkshoes

Retrogamer wrote: »

It's referred to as filtering in the Highway code.
It also says when pulling away or driving in slow moving traffic to be aware of cyclists or motorcycles who may be filtering

It seems most motorists only dislike it because they're not allowed to do it.

It is called filtering in the highway code, but it is not actually law -just an implication to look out for "filtering".

It then goes on to say that filtering should not be done at junctions or any situations causing conflict with other road users.

This cyclist was a menace, and yes, I do cycle myself, and am very ashamed of such cyclists that give others such a bad name.

Retrogamer

Geodark wrote: »

Have to disagree with this in my experience up here in Newcastle - its far more often the cyclists that seem to to ignore the rules of the road rather than the cars. daily experience here seeing them running red lights, drifting lanes, wrong lanes etc. I ride, cycle and drive - so have no prejudice.
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Out of curiousity, how often do you see the following?

Drivers not indicating at roundabouts or coming out of / into major / minor roads.
Drivers flooring it when the traffic lights turn amber.
Drivers breaking the speed limit.
Parking on double yellow lines.
Driving in overtaking lanes whilst not overtaking.

zagfles

Retrogamer wrote: »

Out of curiousity, how often do you see the following?

Drivers not indicating at roundabouts or coming out of / into major / minor roads.
Drivers flooring it when the traffic lights turn amber.
Drivers breaking the speed limit.
Parking on double yellow lines.
Driving in overtaking lanes whilst not overtaking.

And when you get idiot cyclist meets idiot motorist...

Few years ago I was sat waiting at a red light, side road to my left, oncoming traffic had a green light and a green filter to turn right (ie to my left).

Some idiot cyclist going in my direction jumps the red light at the same time as some idiot motorist turns right without indicating. Guess what?

Cyclist OK but bike wrecked, slanging match in the middle of the road ensues about whose fault it was!

Rosemary7391

Retrogamer wrote: »

Out of curiousity, how often do you see the following?

Drivers not indicating at roundabouts or coming out of / into major / minor roads.

As a pedestrian, frequently! It drives me mad. I glare at them, but they only notice if I'm in their way, ie if I'm crossing the side road they forgot to indicate they were turning into, rather than the route they turned out of without indicating. The number who belatedly indicate in the former situation, when they're halfway around the corner already, is astonishing!

zagfles

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

As a pedestrian, frequently! It drives me mad. I glare at them, but they only notice if I'm in their way, ie if I'm crossing the side road they forgot to indicate they were turning into, rather than the route they turned out of without indicating. The number who belatedly indicate in the former situation, when they're halfway around the corner already, is astonishing!

Also the idiots who think that just because they have to go a particular way, they don't need to indicate.

I nearly got run over in the city centre by some idiot turning left without indicating - her excuse was that cars have to turn left there (straight on was buses only), but HTF was I supposed to know, I couldn't see the signs from where I was!

Anyway seems this thread's been hijacked - it was supposed to be a rant about cyclists. Don't get me started on other road users - eg horse riders who ride 2 abreast and put their arms up to say "don't overtake" when there's plenty of room to do so. Or lorry drivers who drive 3 inches from your backside on a motorway in a roadworks 50 zone.

Oldfatgrumpy

On the narrow residential one-way street I live on, I have to turn left out of my drive from between parked vehicles to go in the correct direction but always check carefully for oncoming cycles going the wrong way as we get so many of them breaking the law on our street. Delivery vehicles in our vicinity, having dropped off, do multi-point turns frequently too so as to avoid a quarter mile of one-way system in favour of an illegal 50 yards or so against the tide to the end of the road. This is particularly annoying when they are using my driveway to facilitate the turn while I'm waiting to park in it. Some residents with off-road parking at my end of the road pull out of their drives in the wrong direction too, the lazy it's-all-about-me chancers.

Azari

zagfles wrote: »

eg horse riders who ride 2 abreast and put their arms up to say "don't overtake" when there's plenty of room to do so.

I would not recognise that meaning from that signal.

I'd assume they were just being polite and thanking me for approaching them slowly and quietly.

daytona0

Azari wrote: »

I would not recognise that meaning from that signal.

I'd assume they were just being polite and thanking me for approaching them slowly and quietly.

Umm, why would you assume that? Signals are used to show an intention or to warn others.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/312184/the-highway-code-signals-to-other-road-users.pdf

Should probably read up on the highway code a bit lad, as if you get one of those hand signals wrong you may cause an accident (irrespective of how slow and quiet you are).

NBLondon

dacouch wrote: »

I know what you mean.

The vast vast majority of cyclist in Central London now obey traffic lights and you can almost hear the displeasure amongst the cyclists who have stopped at the lights to the cyclist who sails through.

Zebra crossings seems to be ignored by more cyclists though, if you stop at a crossing to allow pedestrians to cross, very few cyclists adjust their speed to take into account they cannot see the crossing and the vehicle at the front has stopped so there are likely to be people crossing. I see so many near misses and actual cyclists hitting pedestrians.

You really need to have your wits about you when using a zebra crossing in heavy traffic in Central London

I walk across Central London to work most days and 3 or 4 out of 5, I will see a cyclist diving through a pelican or a zebra with pedestrians already crossing. As da just said, there may be 3 or 4 already stopped but the idiot will whiz between them. When you add in the habits of jumping onto the pavement at will or taking to pedestrianized short cuts at full speed; I'm surprised there aren't more incidents - I see the near misses.


It's not just lycra louts or couriers though - this includes tweed jacketed chaps on Bromptons and commuters on Boris bikes.

PLog86

daytona0 wrote: »

Umm, why would you assume that? Signals are used to show an intention or to warn others.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/312184/the-highway-code-signals-to-other-road-users.pdf

Should probably read up on the highway code a bit lad, as if you get one of those hand signals wrong you may cause an accident (irrespective of how slow and quiet you are).

Might I respectfully suggest that YOU need to read up on the highway code. None of those signals involves "putting your arm up to say "don't overtake"". The closest you could get would be to stick your right arm out sideways to indicate that you were turning right, which should stop anyone overtaking. If I saw a horse riders "put there arms up" I wouldn't know what to make of it.

Making up your own signals for your own purposes is no part of the highway code.