A question about keeping children off school in term time: to take them on holiday.

coolcait

missbiggles1 wrote: »

14 years isn't really a very wide perspective in educational terms, I'm afraid.

It is, however, a wider perspective than the "5 or 6 years" set out in the opening post of this thread.

missbiggles1

coolcait wrote: »

It is, however, a wider perspective than the "5 or 6 years" set out in the opening post of this thread.

True - the threads been going on so long I'm sure many of us have forgotten the op.:)

Andypandyboy

This actually has stats which oppose the OP's view.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/412638/The_link_between_absence_and_attainment_at_KS2_and_KS4.pdf

maman

Andypandyboy wrote: »

This actually has stats which oppose the OP's view.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/412638/The_link_between_absence_and_attainment_at_KS2_and_KS4.pdf

I'm sure you mean well but OP wouldn't have the slightest interest in statistics or facts just opinion provided that opinion concurs with his own.


These threads ALWAYS end up as teacher bashing from people whose main priority is for a school to provide childcare when it suits them.

Buzzybee90

But loads of children that have days off for being ill will have more than 5 days off in a year.

The holidayers could end up with better attendance than those that have days off for a headache.

In fact it was quite well known in my year that the top set students (in my half of the school anyway, not sure about the other) did seem to have holidays off but were rarely 'ill'.

Anecdotal of course, but interesting.

coolcait

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

But loads of children that have days off for being ill will have more than 5 days off in a year.

The holidayers could end up with better attendance than those that have days off for a headache.

In fact it was quite well known in my year that the top set students (in my half of the school anyway, not sure about the other) did seem to have holidays off but were rarely 'ill'.

Anecdotal of course, but interesting.

I couldn't prevent my children missing school because they became ill.


I can however prevent them missing school if it would be as a result of choices which I make. I simply make different choices.

missbiggles1

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

But loads of children that have days off for being ill will have more than 5 days off in a year.

The holidayers could end up with better attendance than those that have days off for a headache.

In fact it was quite well known in my year that the top set students (in my half of the school anyway, not sure about the other) did seem to have holidays off but were rarely 'ill'.

Anecdotal of course, but interesting.

You can probably get away with time off for a holiday or time off ill. As illness is generally unpredictable, best not to take holidays off, at least until the very end of summer term.

Buzzybee90

coolcait wrote: »

I couldn't prevent my children missing school because they became ill.


I can however prevent them missing school if it would be as a result of choices which I make. I simply make different choices.

What I'm saying is, lots of children stay home with 'illnesses' which wouldn't have washed with my parents.

Probably missing more time than children who had time off for a holiday, over the course of the year.

It's swings and roundabouts. Had a holiday every year but never took a day off ill.

Jagraf

maman wrote: »

I'm sure you mean well but OP wouldn't have the slightest interest in statistics or facts just opinion provided that opinion concurs with his own.


These threads ALWAYS end up as teacher bashing from people whose main priority is for a school to provide childcare when it suits them.

I find it really strange that people can take their children out of school so that teachers can't do their job of teaching their kids.

Then parents moan about teachers not doing their job.

Some comments by people who think they know the teaching profession are cringe worthy.

Jagraf

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

What I'm saying is, lots of children stay home with 'illnesses' which wouldn't have washed with my parents.

Probably missing more time than children who had time off for a holiday, over the course of the year.

It's swings and roundabouts. Had a holiday every year but never took a day off ill.

I don't think that's the point though. Taking time off for a holiday is breaking the law, taking time off when you are ill isn't. We are not given a set number of days to choose whether to be ill or to go on holiday. It should start with expecting full attendance, all year round, and if you are ill everyone does their best to put it right. It's something unavoidable. But going on holiday is a whim dressed up as 'educational'.

I too day by day see what you mean. But imagine using that argument in the workplace.