MSE News: 'Family tax': Dad's outrage as Ryanair tries to seat 3yo away from family

Pollycat

NFH wrote: »

If you disagree, then please present constructive reasoning why you disagree. If you can't do that (or you simply say that MSE didn't mention it), then you are trolling.

If it was a breach of H&S rules, then MSE would have taken the stance that airlines were risking children's lives instead of saying it is an unfair family tax.
They would be demanding from the governemtn instead of the airlines.
Someone - in this age of 'no win no fee' bottom feeders - would have pursued the H&S avenue and taken airlines to court.

NFH

Pollycat wrote: »

They are CAA guidelines - we have already discussed that. As peachyprice has pointed out

Peachyprice's points were simply more trolling. Splitting hairs just to express disagreement. I had already addressed that.

Please can we get this thread back on topic and cut out the trolling.

NFH

Pollycat wrote: »

Someone - in this age of 'no win no fee' bottom feeders - would have pursued the H&S avenue and taken airlines to court.

Please read the thread properly. I have already addressed that point. Stop trolling.

Pollycat

NFH wrote: »

Peachyprice's points were simply more trolling. Splitting hairs just to express disagreement. I had already addressed that.

Please can we get this thread back on topic and cut out the trolling.

It really sounds to me rhat anyone who disagrees with you is accused of trolling.

I disagree that you have addressed that.
It's very clear - on the CAA website, it's guidelines.
2 posters have pointed that out and all you have done is accuse them of trolling'

As far as I'm concerned, the thread is back on topic.It's about MSE highlighting the fact that some airlines seat families apart.

Some posters insist that is a breach of H&S rules.
Others disagree.

Pollycat

NFH wrote: »

Please read the thread properly. I have already addressed that point. Stop trolling.

I've followed the thread since it started and over the 20 pages following that.

I apologise if I have missed something that you posted earlier.

peachyprice

NFH wrote: »

Peachyprice's points were simply more trolling. Splitting hairs just to express disagreement. I had already addressed that.

Please can we get this thread back on topic and cut out the trolling.

People who disagree with you are not trolls. Idiot

As for splitting hairs, no, just reading the words in front of me that you are unable to do, which is exactly what the airlines are doing.

tain

leylandsunaddict wrote: »

No, because you're boring the pants off me to be honest. As you seem to know everything about H&S, and everything there is to know about law, I'm surprised you even bother to grace internet forums with your presence. It seems a shame to waste your time discussing foreign airlines policies when I'm sure your knowledge would be of far more use out there actually doing something about changing them. Instead your trying to impress people that really don't care about your obvious talents.

Given that charging extra for seats is nothing new if there was this great issue you seem to be convinced about, I'm surprised that this nanny state we live in hasn't done something about it before now.

I'm out. Today I'm sharing my talents where they can actually help to effect a change.

Publicising and making people aware of health and safety is actually a huge part of what health and safety professionals try to achieve. It's not just me sitting in a chair waiting to prosecute people who mess up - we'd much rather it never happened in the first place.

As such, there is very little I can do regarding the H&S aspect of this other than to make my thoughts public. Or maybe you think my conscious would be much better placed if I said naff all and something serious happened to a child as a result? I'm sure that would make me sleep very well at night - me knowing you weren't quite so bored with someone disagreeing with you is definitely the best outcome here. Sod the children that might be affected.

tain

Pollycat wrote: »

If it was a breach of H&S rules, then MSE would have taken the stance that airlines were risking children's lives instead of saying it is an unfair family tax.
They would be demanding from the governemtn instead of the airlines.
Someone - in this age of 'no win no fee' bottom feeders - would have pursued the H&S avenue and taken airlines to court.

You need a loss or injury to go to court.

H&S law is about stopping it before it ever gets to a loss or injury, not simply about punishment and fines afterwards.

tain

peachyprice wrote: »

People who disagree with you are not trolls. Idiot

As for splitting hairs, no, just reading the words in front of me that you are unable to do, which is exactly what the airlines are doing.

I've asked quite a number of realistic, very pertinent questions to this topic to try and stimulate a purposeful debate on the topic.

So far, the people we're accusing of trolling have managed to ignore every single one in favour of just repeating the same lines over again and again, never addressing our counter arguments in any shape or form.

This is what we call trolling. No purposeful dialogue - just a constant stream of useless comments usually followed by :rotfl:

NFH

tain wrote: »

You need a loss or injury to go to court.

Exactly. I had already pointed that out above, but the trolls conveniently ignored it. The trolls are going around in circles ignoring previously made points, remaking the same weak arguments.