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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    I must go to bed. I was sitting outside having a fire and some nice fizz......just gathering my thoughts.......and I was chased in by some thunder and lightening and fat rain :eek:

    LFAB I hope you are ok. I have been a terrible friend lately :o I emailed you earlier. I hope your email is still the same and I wasn't talking to myself :rotfl: :cool:


    :)
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Morning paw sniffers

    I have only 2 things to say.......

    Westie........ Smart ....:D

    CoT.........hells bells:eek:
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Thinking of flab:A
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Just had a lovely evening out with friends and returned to find Oswald on the doorstop who has been missing since yesterday.

    I am so relieved to see him:smileyhea:smileyhea think I'm in love with him a little bit.
    He's now fallen asleep on my knee and I don't want to move him:o

    But must say goodnight....off to disturb Mr TS:p:)
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    TrulyMadly wrote: »
    Morning paw sniffers

    I have only 2 things to say.......

    Westie........ Smart ....:D

    CoT.........hells bells:eek:

    TUT now I feel compelled to see what westie has done. I'm a crap lurker :o and catcher upper

    Sucked in agin and I only came on to complain about Glaswegian man boobs :eek:
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 4 July 2015 at 1:23AM
    :hello:
    Another 'heavy' post for a Friday night!(:rotfl:) [EDIT: Oops, I started on Friday night but it took me more than an hour to write - all the links etc., the well-documented research:rotfl:, these posts, not thrown together, they are done properly and thoroughly:D, so it's just this one post tonight/this early hours.]

    I've just been looking around (like you do) and it seems that, although it's not a glitch price, I ought to have bought that "No Ad" Sun Lotion that I didn't know much about, as it seems it may be one of the best sunscreens available. At £2 you get a "huge" bottle, of 500ml, somewhat more than the merely 200ml creams at the same or, often, more expensive price. Although some of the following info. is rather old, nonetheless:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2149485/Budget-sunscreens-rated-best-market--Hawaiian-Tropic-lotion-blasted-worst-possible-UVA-protection-score.html

    So, there we had it. What a surprise:rotfl::rotfl:! So, yet again, the 'cheap' budget items do much better than the well-advertised well-known brands, which, I've started to think, most of the money goes into paying for the expensive advertising and little into the actual products for which people (most people) pay hugely expensive prices for something that is far worse.

    As for the Haiwaiian Tropic, I think they come in much smaller bottles where the "half price" is £5:eek: and the normal price £10!:eek::eek:

    It seems the Mail may have a bit of an obsession as they have revisited the topic in the last few days:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3146349/Safe-cheap-not-greasy-plus-no-streaky-white-marks-bargain-6-50-sun-cream-outshines-one-costing-158.html

    But can a £6.50 SPF 50 offer the same protection as a one costing £158?

    No, I don't think a £6.50 one can offer the same protection - I think it can only offer far more protection.

    I've also googled around (other brands may be available:laugh:) to try to find out why people generally go for brands when, it seems, they are often pricey and inferior.

    In a way, I'm glad I'm 'different' (that's other people's perceptions:p and yet again I disagree and don't accept that I am, without substantiated evidence - I like to challenge/disagree with people's assumptions - especially, or mainly, because they are nearly always incorrect:rotfl:) and that therefore I'm not part of this crazy world of mass hysteria consumption. I don't need to be trammelled down by it and, therefore, unlike most people, I am free of these unnecessary problems.

    http://www.fastcodesign.com/3047158/evidence/why-do-we-like-brands-as-much-as-we-like-people

    This causes me to :(, and almost turn my nose up at the idea of "love", in the sense of "loving" a brand. I don't think I'd ever go so far as to say I "loved" a brand - the best I would get is that I might "like" something (but that would be in the sense of just saying I'd liked it and I would never "like" on Facebook for instance). But then I would be just as likely to "like" value-range stuff - well, especially as it may be far superior to the "brands":rotfl:. I wouldn't love a brand - indeed, I'm the quite opposite(:j:rotfl:) - I'd move around and be as disloyal as possible! Loyalty is expensive.

    But, there we have it - it's about emotions that people attach to brands, and I don't have any:T. Instead, for me, the word "emotion" conjures up a distaste or sickening dislike of stupid sentimentality and worthlessness (I am being harsh and bit melodramatic so don't take me literally:D:laugh:) - no, but, sentimentality, sometimes, it can just be sugary, false, sickeningly sweet and make me go :(. Under this argument, there's everything wrong with emotional attachment!

    http://mashable.com/2014/02/17/6-ways-people-love-brand/

    And this too: "People don't buy for logical reasons. They buy for emotional reasons."

    Which means, to gain customers - and keep them for life:eek: - you have to make them fall in love with [your product].

    Keep them for life so that you can exploit them and rip them off because of their loyality:(. They don't reward you - they charge you much much more, because you make them money.

    I think I find the concept of "loving" a brand to be rather sickening. That page is also headlined "6 Ways to Make People Love Your Brand". I think if someone is going to "make" me do something, then I am going to want to dispute, rally against and be as completely resistant and obdurate as possible against whatever it is they are trying to "make" me do!:mad::mad:(:rotfl:)

    Especially if you want to try to get me to do (or not to do) something or to make me think in a particular way, that suits your own interests, I'm going to be utterly not giving you whatever you want.

    Then there's this that I come across from a couple of years ago:
    http://www.psmag.com/business-economics/brands-are-imprinted-on-our-brains-5986

    There's no suggestion that Cola Cola or Pepsi are inferior products, and that's not a complaint that there's no such suggestion btw - I'm instead saying that I'm not making such a suggestion.

    Nonetheless, as a :money: tip, it seems the answer may be to buy a value-range cola and put a Coca Cola label onto it. People, who do not know the true position, will then emotionally react to the product as if it was Coca Cola that they believe it to be! And, interestingly, the less frequent Coca Cola drinkers appear to react somewhat more, thus (perhaps*) indicating a stronger reliance on their associations to the brand:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0061569

    I guess I reacted to the No Ad product because it was an "unknown" name. And therefore I did not have anything tht automatically associated with "quality". I should have realised though - that, in future, well-known brand name is to be equated with inferior product and unknown is going to mean it is totally excellent!:rotfl:

    Interestingly, on the Coke/Pepsi thing, it seems that Coca Cola activated more activity in the right amygdala. The amygdala:D - an area implicated in processing of emotion. I suspect that, for me, there's "something strange" (maybe, to some extent, weird and wonderful) going on in my amygdala, as I've read all about this(:o:o:rotfl:) (http://www.washington.edu/news/2009/03/19/heightened-level-of-amygdala-activity-may-cause-social-deficits-in-autism/**) and therefore the effect on me would be something completely different, meaning that I don't fall for any of this brand hypnosis!:D:T:rotfl::rotfl::j:j Although, to be honest, I don't really have any cola at all (whether Coca Cola, Pepsi or value range) as I don't really like cola, but that's another story. But I did have an own brand version of Lilt and thought it tasted absolutely identical! (No surprise, and it was way way cheaper, as the ingredients list was virtually identical.) An own "brand":( version! Own label Savvy, own label. What they call it to avoid, sometimes, comparing supermarket's own products to cheaper prices elsewhere!




    *Why do I add this word in my own making my argument less effective:(? Sadly, my truth-telling approach comes in again and makes me unable to be a good salesperson. It's no good - you have to promote as an advertiser and leave downsides out.

    **Heightened activity? Maybe activity of a different kind? Or maybe such that it would crowd out any other stimulus, such as from 'brand hypnosis':rotfl:. I think most people's lights up (or maybe that's another area of the brain) when they see people - whereas mine doesn't (or don't, as there's left and right) and reacts to people the same as it reacts (or not:rotfl:) to objects.
    Although - maybe it can have its downsides - it can cause a greater stimuli/oversensitiveness in me and therefore some things affect me more badly than they do to most people. I suspect.
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Donner und blitzen:eek:

    Anyone seen the photos of cars hit by those hailstones on Wednesday?
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    TUT now I feel compelled to see what westie has done. I'm a crap lurker :o and catcher upper

    Sucked in agin and I only came on to complain about Glaswegian man boobs :eek:

    She's passed her first year:T
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    TrulyMadly wrote: »
    She's passed her first year:T

    I just found it :o

    Well done Westie :) a true achievement from someone who was wavering about even doing it. How far you have come. Your confidence must be at least 6 inches off the floor along with my butt ;)

    I reached the floor recently :o and it's not easy to realise there's only one way from there. And the steps don't count :p

    I really have been treated to an in depth lesson in what a loss in your own confidence can do to you. It's not an easy thing to get back when you lose it......for whatever reason. Losing it takes a moment (or so it seems) getting it back takes climbing a mountain. I'm still at base camp :o

    Well done you Westie. All that rambling was a compliment :A
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 4 July 2015 at 1:44AM
    TrulyMadly wrote: »
    Donner und blitzen:eek:

    Anyone seen the photos of cars hit by those hailstones on Wednesday?

    No I lied:D - two posts (or more:rotfl:) by me now but whose bothered about that?:cool:

    Yes, I was just looking at those a moment ago (literally in between posting and just amending again my last post) as we've just had a slight downpour and thunder here and having a single moan (in my head rather than quite audibly) about how the BBC Weather page for my location can show 01:00 (as part of Friday no less:eek::(:rotfl:) with a cloud and two rainspots and completely fail to show any zigzaggy thing that they use for thunder/lightning. Just so inaccurate!:laugh: And apparently Friday runs until 05:59:59.99999999999999999...:( Well, not .999 recurring infinitely as that would be 06:00:00, but you know what I mean: the smallest possible fraction immediately prior to.

    Anyway, thanks for being 'with me' (for a few minutes) - and goodbye for now!:wave:
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