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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    hornetgirl wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    And of course the weather has been beautiful here the whole time we were away, or so mil would have us believe ;)
    Did you get your cod "dealt with"?

    Yes the cod has been filleted and frozen. Only we could have a monster cod caught after we'd bought fish and chips for dinner because DS2 told us it was national fish and chips day :o
  • zagubov
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    From what I gather recently.....just to confuse us.....they are moving away from aspergers diagnosis and just diagnosing anyone with ASD as ' on the spectrum' it's a bit of a hip term on social media :cool:

    But in your defence.....Aspergers is saved for the very high functioning end of the spectrum and includes some of the best brains on our planet :D not that we didn't already know it :p

    I reckon anyone of us.....of a certain age....could throw their memories back to childhood and recognise someone who'd these days would be deemed to be 'on the spectrum' be it a family member or in my case....people in primary school who were taken out of class for 'remedial' lessons :(
    Autism isn't on the increase. But awareness is, thankfully :)

    That's spot on. But I must say, I find that since DS was diagnosed, I'm seeing it in everywhere (well almost everywhere). I sometimes wonder how common Aspergers traits are among non-ASD people.

    I once encountered someone who wasn't diagnosed with, but appeared to have Williams Syndrome which in some ways is apparently the social opposite of ASD. They didn't have obvious intellectual impairment, but they could read you like a book.
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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    That's spot on. But I must say, I find that since DS was diagnosed, I'm seeing it in everywhere (well almost everywhere). I sometimes wonder how common Aspergers traits are among non-ASD people.

    I once encountered someone who wasn't diagnosed with, but appeared to have Williams Syndrome which in some ways is apparently the social opposite of ASD. They didn't have obvious intellectual impairment, but they could read you like a book.

    Oh Zag.....it's a minefield :o

    DS2 has his problems but he he has his brilliance as well. He can still do the 'party trick' of asking someone's birthday/year of birth and he can tell them which day if the week they were born

    but he can't pass a maths exam :o

    I'm absolutely gutted that GCSE are returning to exam based format :( it's not good for kids who struggle under pressure.

    I admire you and people who do your work. you almost have to be a psychologist as well as what you are :eek:

    Which I admire greatly.....giving hope to the kids who don't automatically qualify for uni :A x
  • Savvybuyer
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    From what I gather recently.....just to confuse us.....they are moving away from aspergers diagnosis and just diagnosing anyone with ASD as ' on the spectrum' it's a bit of a hip term on social media :cool:

    But in your defence.....Aspergers is saved for the very high functioning end of the spectrum and includes some of the best brains on our planet :D not that we didn't already know it :p

    I reckon anyone of us.....of a certain age....could throw their memories back to childhood and recognise someone who'd these days would be deemed to be 'on the spectrum' be it a family member or in my case....people in primary school who were taken out of class for 'remedial' lessons :(
    Autism isn't on the increase. But awareness is, thankfully :)

    That doesn't confuse me:D! Except that it did:rotfl:, because I read [red] your post as saying "just to confuse you" (i.e. me) and then noticed in fact it said "just to confuse us".

    I'm fully aware of the change - so, yes, the "autism spectrum disorder" in the written report is technically correct (even though the clinician told me Asperger's) - it's correct under the new definition although, since that is mainly America and the UK is still on the World Health definition, it's incorrect as it's Asperger's not autism. Yes, I know - "Asperger's is a form of autism" but it's still a useful distinction, IMO, between classic autism on one hand and Asperger's on the other.

    Elsewhere from time to time I use the terms "Asperger's" and "autism" interchangably as if they were the same thing. This, in truth, goes a bit against my former natural instinct, which is to be complete pedantic and maintain throughout a separation as not the same thing but society has, over the years, changed me so as not to be as pedantic as I used to be!! I've learned that it doesn't aid social success:rotfl:. To confuse many other people, there are at least two different meanings of "autism"... autism as in "autism or Asperger's"* (and maybe PD-NOS etc as well, who knows?) and autism as in "classic (Kanner) autism" (the last of which is therefore completely mutually exclusive from Asperger's).

    You didn't already know it, when I was at school many decades ago and never diagnosed me with it!:p:rotfl: (I knew, of course, for about one week and then forgot about it - afraid that, if I breathed a word at that stage, I would be taken away, put into a specialist school - I went through mainstream school - and forgotten about, such as may have been the way back then.)

    Those people, even though not recognised at the time, always had and always have had the condition. I still have it "from birth", even though I was diagnosed more than 35 years later!

    Just like Pluto was never a planet. And maybe it was never a "dwarf planet" or whatever they currently think it is now if, at some point later, it is decided that it was not:rotfl:.

    *"Autism" i.e. autism including Asperger's, as Asperger's is a form of autism.
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    That doesn't confuse me:D! Except that it did:rotfl:, because I read [red] your post as saying "just to confuse you" (i.e. me) and then noticed in fact it said "just to confuse us".

    I'm fully aware of the change - so, yes, the "autism spectrum disorder" in the written report is technically correct (even though the clinician told me Asperger's) - it's correct under the new definition although, since that is mainly America and the UK is still on the World Health definition, it's incorrect as it's Asperger's not autism. Yes, I know - "Asperger's is a form of autism" but it's still a useful distinction, IMO, between classic autism on one hand and Asperger's on the other.

    Elsewhere from time to time I use the terms "Asperger's" and "autism" interchangably as if they were the same thing. This, in truth, goes a bit against my former natural instinct, which is to be complete pedantic and maintain throughout a separation as not the same thing but society has, over the years, changed me so as not to be as pedantic as I used to be!! I've learned that it doesn't aid social success:rotfl:. To confuse many other people, there are at least two different meanings of "autism"... autism as in "autism or Asperger's"* (and maybe PD-NOS etc as well, who knows?) and autism as in "classic (Kanner) autism" (the last of which is therefore completely mutually exclusive from Asperger's).

    You didn't already know it, when I was at school many decades ago and never diagnosed me with it!:p:rotfl: (I knew, of course, for about one week and then forgot about it - afraid that, if I breathed a word at that stage, I would be taken away, put into a specialist school - I went through mainstream school - and forgotten about, such as may have been the way back then.)

    Those people, even though not recognised at the time, always had and always have had the condition. I still have it "from birth", even though I was diagnosed more than 35 years later!

    Just like Pluto was never a planet. And maybe it was never a "dwarf planet" or whatever they currently think it is now if, at some point later, it is decided that it was not:rotfl:.

    *"Autism" i.e. autism including Asperger's, as Asperger's is a form of autism.

    Oh my that has made me giggle :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Think of is poor mothers :eek: my houseguest is very interested in planets :o and we have had many conversations about Pluto.

    Then I go upstairs to 'keep out of the black and in the red, nothing in this game for two in a bed'

    I do keep a straight face but sometimes.....in the middle of the stairs if I think no one is looking :o I pull a lock of my own hair :o and if it hurts I know I'm really here :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: we all have reality checks? Mine is pulling my hair because it does really hurt :eek: if feel it I know ive not died and been sent to some cruel limbo :rotfl::A

    :rotfl::rotfl:
  • Savvybuyer
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    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=68549506&postcount=9822

    I'm just catching up:rotfl::rotfl:.
    Yes, RF, it was time for a new thread as I reminded people a short time before:rotfl:.

    What is "standard size"? Is that 187ml or 75cl - or something else? I think you mean 75cl and therefore it should be obvious to me and I shouldn't be asking:o although, on the other hand, ...zzz... yes I know this is rather boring but the Advertising Standards Authority once considered something like the pack sizes of Kellogg's Corn Flakes and decided that there was no standard size. It may be that 750g is the most common "family" size pack for me. But, then, families vary in sizes and what is described as a "family pack" by manufacturers may not be a family pack for some families. Kellogg's Corn Flakes comes in 500g, 750g and 1kg packs (and possibly others as well), none of which is standard size.
  • Savvybuyer
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    edited 7 June 2015 at 11:43PM
    fairclaire wrote: »
    Oh Zag.....it's a minefield :o

    DS2 has his problems but he he has his brilliance as well. He can still do the 'party trick' of asking someone's birthday/year of birth and he can tell them which day if the week they were born

    but he can't pass a maths exam :o

    I'm absolutely gutted that GCSE are returning to exam based format :( it's not good for kids who struggle under pressure.

    I admire you and people who do your work. you almost have to be a psychologist as well as what you are :eek:

    Which I admire greatly.....giving hope to the kids who don't automatically qualify for uni :A x

    My party trick is Pi. Wish I could remember beyond the 25th digit still though rather than keep forgetting and only remembering back to what I knew 10 years ago (before I tried to extend it further).

    Someone else online has the immediate day of the week thing, some can immediately tell you what the weather was on a specific date (despite not being alive at the time) and they say they couldn't explain it except that "it just pops right into my head!".

    I can't explain why I retain Morrisons prices, despite a never-ending 'fear' that I will forget some of them every time... I don't know why I remember those things, they "just pop right into my head!":D

    I know it may seem as if I have been ignoring the parts of your earlier posts that were about DS2. I wasn't though. I have read all of them, it was just I didn't have anything to say.

    Asperger's (maybe autism) is characterised by areas of brilliance and areas of deficit - or, as I call them, my "blindspots".

    The problem (I know it is of no use to you) is that, although moving to an exam based format, yet there has to be some way of assessing people. Some people have areas of brilliance and areas of deficit so how are they to be assessed? Some Asperger's people are brilliant at maths (probably far beyond any other person could manage). Some people with Asperger's are not and some people without Asperger's aren't good at maths either.

    I wasn't a child genius or "brilliant", as such, at maths but it was one of my strong subjects. I did a Maths Paper at distinction in my school days. Yet, when I was at college, they actually had to drop me down:( from Pure Maths to plain Statistics because I couldn't cope with the former (nor could about half the group) - and, even then, on the 'easier' plain Stats. course, although I passed the exam, I didn't do very well at all in it despite, I felt, pushing my back out and trying the hardest I possibility could at the subject (as with every subject I did). Maybe that was something to do with my (then) unknown Asperger's - perhaps, sometimes, I have to try harder than most people appear to in order to achieve merely the same result(:() and my harder trying is what I have to do in order to make up for the effect of the disability. Who knows; I do not know what I would be like - or how things might be or how easier(?) they might be if I did not have the disability - so, maybe, my usual hard trying, which is just what is my normal trying to me, not hard, is maybe what I have to do every time to compensate for the disability. I don't know - as I suggest, I don't know how easy or not things would be without Asperger's so I have nothing to compare it against.

    However, whilst I excelled academically at school, I also remember :o:ohow I did no work at all on one subject at college, which was coursework-based assessment at the end based on what you'd done at various points in the year. Only nowadays does it become clear that that was my (in some areas chronic) procrastination again. They had to take me out, near the end of the year, and have me doing all the work for the whole year, in the library, alone, in about the last two weeks of the year. Unbelievably maybe I actually passed that subject better than others I took - in fact it was about the only subject I did very well in at college!
  • zagubov
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    Oh Zag.....it's a minefield :o

    DS2 has his problems but he he has his brilliance as well. He can still do the 'party trick' of asking someone's birthday/year of birth and he can tell them which day if the week they were born

    but he can't pass a maths exam :o

    I'm absolutely gutted that GCSE are returning to exam based format :( it's not good for kids who struggle under pressure.

    I admire you and people who do your work. you almost have to be a psychologist as well as what you are :eek:

    Which I admire greatly.....giving hope to the kids who don't automatically qualify for uni :A x

    It's infuriating how things are regressing in education. Not only is coursework being deleted from academic courses but traditionally coursework-based courses will soon have exams imposed (if they haven't already done so). :(

    There are educational trends that might be better reversed, but the contribution of coursework isn't one of them. I didn't encounter coursework till later on my degree course Even worse is the imposition of terminal exams making up 100% of the outcome with no chance of collecting earlier credit.

    When I worked for the OU there was an understanding you couldn't spend eight years on a degree without encountering a major life event that could impede or impair or delay your progress and this needed to be taken on board. But apparently eighteen-year-olds don't have this problem.:mad:
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • ilovegreatdanes
    ilovegreatdanes Posts: 2,058 Forumite
    Just popped in to say hello.....and thank henlans for the new thread.
    all the best, everyone in all you do, take care.xx
    People bring great joy into our lives..some by arriving, others by leaving.im trying to be one of the former, so please bear with :)

    LOVE ME, LOVE MY NEWFOUNDLAND.:A
  • Savvybuyer
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    zagubov wrote: »
    It's infuriating how things are regressing in education. Not only is coursework being deleted from academic courses but traditionally coursework-based courses will soon have exams imposed (if they haven't already done so). :(

    There are educational trends that might be better reversed, but the contribution of coursework isn't one of them. I didn't encounter coursework till later on my degree course Even worse is the imposition of terminal exams making up 100% of the outcome with no chance of collecting earlier credit.

    When I worked for the OU there was an understanding you couldn't spend eight years on a degree without encountering a major life event that could impede or impair or delay your progress and this needed to be taken on board. But apparently eighteen-year-olds don't have this problem.:mad:

    We had that in one of my other A levels - probably why I didn't do well in that subject at college. It was because the college chose a specific exam board - even the lecturer said this - if it had been any other exam board, the work would have passed but, because it was this particular one, it did not. They wanted many things written in a specific way and, if you didn't use the exact word they were after, it didn't pass - in fact it ought to have been much easier for me that they were wanting an exact word, due to my being pedantic, but sadly, for whatever reason, it wasn't. I think they were too pedantic for me and just way too much and I didn't get it! It was so hard for me, the exam in that way, and I just didn't manage to say what they wanted as much as I should. Mainly because I did not know what they wanted.
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