Wood pellets boilers

captainhindsight_2

These last three posters are just laughable.

Using below average energy consumption and below average prices paid for energy for fossil fuels to support your anti renewable agenda. It is so transparent.

If you three were right all the 1000s of people/businesses that have fitted biomass boiler are wrong and you three are right. How does it feel to be so clever?

Oh and you don't agree with industry insiders sharing their knowledge and experience on the market instead you want to hear from ill informed people who don't read beyond the headline and are suddenly industry experts!? Hahaha

Oh and in all my 1242 posts where have I once mentioned my own company? I didn't think so, all I have done is share my experiences from the inside of the industry with people who struggle to understand the perceived mine field of government grants and renewable technologies

zeupater

captainhindsight wrote: »

These last three posters are just laughable.

Using below average energy consumption and below average prices paid for energy for fossil fuels to support your anti renewable agenda. It is so transparent.

If you three were right all the 1000s of people/businesses that have fitted biomass boiler are wrong and you three are right. How does it feel to be so clever?

Oh and you don't agree with industry insiders sharing their knowledge and experience on the market instead you want to hear from ill informed people who don't read beyond the headline and are suddenly industry experts!? Hahaha

Oh and in all my 1242 posts where have I once mentioned my own company? I didn't think so, all I have done is share my experiences from the inside of the industry with people who struggle to understand the perceived mine field of government grants and renewable technologies

Hi

Do you actually bother to read posts by others and at least attempt to understand what they are saying ? ... if you did you'd really understand how overstated the above-referenced post is and why it does nothing but harm to the perception of the renewables industry in general ...

HTH
Z

EricMears

captainhindsight wrote: »

These last three posters are just laughable.

If you three were right all the 1000s of people/businesses that have fitted biomass boiler are wrong and you three are right. How does it feel to be so clever ?

I was one of the last three posters but didn't express any views about biomass boilers at all.

My views are quite simple : Anyone who relies on somebody else's 'average figures' to make a decision about their own property is just plain foolish. They need to be aware of their own figures and get quotes for any proposed spending. What's to laugh at in that ?

My other view is that wasting a page on debating hypothetical averages really is laughable (or would be if it wasn't so sad).

theboylard

That's why I posted my own real figures. For me, a biomass boiler doesn't make financial sense, even though I'd like to.

Richie-from-the-Boro

SWenergy wrote: »

Have you ever considered a heat pump? they are around half the price to run compared to an oil boiler, they can come with a 20 year warranty and the RHI payments are better.
also there's no need to lug around bags of pellets.

- 5 posts all flogging an individual company and a heat pumps
- spam elsewhere my friend

zeupater

SWenergy wrote: »

i am merely spending my time attempting to advise and educate, as many people are ill informed on heat pump technology.

Hi

I think that the issue on this particular thread is that the original poster was looking to install a wood-pellet boiler into a property where mains gas was available .... as (hopefully) you'll know, purely from a cost saving exercise, because of the relatively high initial capital investment, pellet boilers, ASHPs or GSHPs make little sense as alternative heat sources to mains GCH.

Looking at the market, the issue with both heat-pumps and biomass boiler is that margin expectations of both manufacturers and installers is holding back sector growth ... a GCH boiler costing ~£800/£1000 can be supplied & installed for ~£2k, so installation and margin equates to ~£1k .... the question therefore remains as to why an ASHP retailing at ~£2.5k costs over £5k to install, something which becomes far more interesting when almost exactly the same technology is used in Air/Air heat-pumps of similar capacity which can be supplied & installed for around the same cost as a GCH boiler ...

There are a number of members of this forum who try to ensure that people aren't as "ill informed on heat pump technology" as many industry insiders would hope - this includes a number of heat-pump engineers, some posting from countries with far more HP experience than the UK. As long as there's not an intent to represent a particular commercial interest and advice given stands up to the normal (high) level of scrutiny, you'll find that this community would readily welcome another industry insider, the alternative usually results in a pretty rough ride ...

HTH
Z

madyesfan

WE had a german make wood pellet system installed in our garage. Its great - really professional job by my installer. I order 4 tons of pellets a year and it takes 45 minutes to stack them as they are in 10 kg bags. The large hopper holds 180 kg and even in the sub freezing cold spell that will last 4 days. In milder weather top up once a week.
We had an old oil boiler in the kitchen and an old tank at the bottom of the garden. Both needed replacing at a cost of £4k which would be dead money. We went biomass and get the RHI pay back will be 5 years and a 16% tax free return plus the house is warmer all the time.
I benefit from the exercise as well so all in all its a thumbs up from me. System cost £13k - can introduce to installer if you wish