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Android Boxes Promoting Blatant Piracy for sale Ebay

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Hi All

I believe in paying for what i eat/drink/watch even though i dont like it. I have even downgraded my Sky because it's so expensive.

However I was amazed when looking on Ebay at how many of these android boxes are for sale that blatantly sell the device by promising you can watch any movie, TV show or listen to any music and even watch Sky for nothing.

Why does Ebay allow these ads to show when they are supposed to be distancing themselves from this kind of pirate/illegal market?
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  • flashg67
    flashg67 Posts: 4,128 Forumite
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    A cynical person might say because they charge 10% in fees.

    Reporting the listings is probably the only way at least do your bit
  • shafty
    shafty Posts: 9 Forumite
    There are literally hundreds of listings and I think Ebay may be looking at the 10% selling fees, but how it's not illegal for them to do this is beyond me. I'll report a listing and see if it has any effect, but I wont hold my breath!!
  • jb66
    jb66 Posts: 1,705 Forumite
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    just ordered thanks
  • chippy2u
    chippy2u Posts: 320 Forumite
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    Thanks for the heads-up shafty, didn't know you could get such things!
  • Swipe
    Swipe Posts: 5,621 Forumite
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    Everything must be going very well for you at the moment if that is your biggest concern
  • Mirandoch
    Mirandoch Posts: 62 Forumite
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    Oh really? I hadn't heard about this before. That's dreadful. Er... just off to check eBay. See if I can pick up one of these boxes. Of, er, tea. Yes, that's it. Tea. I'm getting awfully low on tea. See you!

    >.>
  • im-lost
    im-lost Posts: 1,927 Forumite
    edited 25 May 2015 at 4:17AM
    Illegal you say? piracy you say? I counter that with a European court ruling, after the UK courts ruling was overturned on appeal at the supreme court.

    https://www.supremecourt.uk/decided-cases/docs/UKSC_2011_0202_Judgment.pdf

    "a major reason for the Supreme Court’s decision was Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive, which gives a copyright exemption to:

    Temporary acts of reproduction … which are transient or incidental, which are an integral and essential part of a technological process and whose sole purpose is to enable:
    (a) a transmission in a network between third parties by an intermediary, or
    (b) lawful use"

    "Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders"

    http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=153302&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=399092

    "This doesn’t mean that website owners who host copyrighted content illegally, which can be accessed and streamed by Internet users, are off the hook though. It’s just the end-user that’s covered under existing law from having to pay any fines for streaming any kind of illegally hosted copyrighted content from the Internet. This should be good news for all those German Internet users who received fines at home for streaming certain !!!!!! videos from a site last year."
  • linni
    linni Posts: 1,480 Forumite
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    You can get them on Gumtree as well.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,348 Community Admin
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    A bog standard laptop that can be bought in Currys can do all of that as well. Should we take action against Currys and all other PC sellers?
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • brewerdave
    brewerdave Posts: 8,714 Forumite
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    A bog standard laptop that can be bought in Currys can do all of that as well. Should we take action against Currys and all other PC sellers?


    ...you can do this on any flavour of device by installing XMBC /KODI.
    I have it installed on my desktop to watch highlights of baseball games.:)
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