Fined for taking 7 minutes to buy a ticket!!

Coupon-mad

Why all the wrong advice on this thread? What's this rubbish about 7 minutes/10 minutes when we are not talking about a real PCN?

OP have you not read the sticky thread yet? Why did I bother?

sinizterguy wrote: »

You might be able to fight and get away with not paying it ...

But, 7 minutes is an inordinately long time to faff around and not pay for a ticket - whatever the reason.

5 minutes would be reasonable ... at most.

Tosh.

Quentin wrote: »

Forget about the 7 minutes argument and go and read the newbies sticky at the top of the forum to see how to go about not paying.

This!

mickleovermaternity

I'm new to this site and I'm not sure what a sticky thread is! I found the guide to unfair private parking fines, would this be it? Apols...

neil.net

mickleovermaternity wrote: »

I'm new to this site and I'm not sure what a sticky thread is! I found the guide to unfair private parking fines, would this be it? Apols...

Top of the forum http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163 titled "**NEWBIES!! PRIVATE PARKING TICKET? OLD OR NEW? **READ THESE FAQS FIRST!** Thankyou!""

mickleovermaternity

Thanks! I'm on my mobile and there's no such text so that's a great help.

ampersand

.......and I will add the thing which usually comes 1st in all of these replies to newbies.

IT IS NOT A 'FINE' - so don't call it that.

You now know this after immersing yourself thoroughly in the newbies reading:-)
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Just go at it steadily and absorb - several readings.

mickleovermaternity

enfield_freddy wrote: »

well you will get a few replies in a minute or two ,


before the "experts" appear , just a bit of info that might help them


"RCP is owned by Shapoor and Ardeshir (their surname escapes me)

They also own Targetfollow and a number of subsidiaries.

Targetfollow own the land that 90% of RCP car parks are on. The older brother had it set up so RCP were paying targetfollow peanuts maybe for tax or other reasons. However targetfollow got put into administration a while back and RCP's rent got bumped up on all the sites. So with that in mind i believe the RCP are the leaseholders and there have a genuine ability to charge for damages/contractual sum."


comment dated late 2013, early 2014


edit , got him

Ardeshir Naghshineh , founder of targetfellow , that almost went bust in 2010 ,(£700 million wanted back by banks) and have sold a lot of there property off and are leasing back

How to find who owns the land on which this particular car park is situated? I've googled it and visited their website but no luck. I gather I should write to the landowner first.

Umkomaas

If it's a retail park, contact the retailers - they will be paying rent to someone.

Ask you local council planning department, someone will be paying rates on the land.

For about £3, you can get details from The Land Registry.

Redx

only the land registry can tell you the landowner (but you pay for this)

otherwise its googling to see if its happened before and somebody on a forum has the details where you write to, or asking the tenants etc

in the meantime, wait for the NTK and then appeal it

try to use a proper device to do the research too, like a laptop, not a mobile phone

The_Deep

I think that the lady doth protest too much. The ticket appears to have been properly issued, only the amount demanded is in question, (and that should only be a few pennies), which can be sorted out at appeal.

Herzlos

The_Deep wrote: »

I think that the lady doth protest too much. The ticket appears to have been properly issued, only the amount demanded is in question, (and that should only be a few pennies), which can be sorted out at appeal.

I disagree, it was improperly issued and should never have happened. The operative has a duty to mitigate losses, knew the driver was just going to get change and issued a ticket instead of either waiting for her to return or tell her she can't do it. In fact the operative managed to cause a loss by issuing the ticket - if he hadn't, she'd have paid up and parked. Instead she drove off.

The odds are the signage is inadequate - if the signs made it clear you couldn't leave the site before paying, then I doubt the driver would have done so.

The amount is also unreasonable.

The operator is also likely to have insufficient authority to issue claims.

Why do you think it was properly issued?