Civil ceremony in a Chapel/Church?

hardpressed

I can only speak for a non-conformist Church, when the marriage register is filled in it states the name of the church and that the couple are married according to the rites of the said church.

inkie

That's right hard pressed. The marriage ceremony is according to the rites of the Church, hence it being a religious ceremony in a church

southoftheriver

duchy wrote: »

agnostic
aɡˈnɒstɪk/
noun
1.
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
synonyms: sceptic, doubter, questioner, doubting Thomas, challenger, scoffer, cynic; More

Why wouldn't anyone know what an agnostic believes ? It's hardly a secret !!!

I hope you get the service you want but I suspect it won't be quite as God free as you hope.
I still think it's the height of hypocrisy though !

You don't know to what extent I hold my agnostic views, and neither do I have to justify it to you.

I suspect you've never been to a Unitarian church or a Unitarian wedding? Whereas I have and am well aware of what the service will involve because it has already been written with our minister.

Since you're so fond of dictionary definitions: A hypocrite is somebody pretending to have moral standards or opinions which they do not have.

I'm not pretending about my religious views because in this particular place I don't have to.

Errata wrote: »

In that case, what is it? A building where those who don't believe can gather together and celebrate their non-belief?

If I thought you were asking because you wanted to learn more I would answer, but your sneering and denigrating tone means I can't really be bothered.

adouglasmhor

Peter333 wrote: »

I would have said no too. Any decent vicar or minister who has a shred of respect for his faith and for the Christians who attend his Church would refuse such a vulgar request.



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Exactly! Utterly ridiculous, having a wedding in Church, but refusing to allow any religion to be mentioned. As many people have said on this thread, I bet no other religion would accept this; in fact a minister from any other religion would probably be extremely offended, and put his foot up your backside!

As I pointed out earlier, CofE are obliged by law to allow non members of the church to marry, they get certain rights in exchange from the state for this. Like bishops having seats in the house of lords. If the poster you replied to had compalined to the Bishop the vicar would have found himself having the interview without tea and scones.

Gloomendoom

adouglasmhor wrote: »

As I pointed out earlier, CofE are obliged by law to allow non members of the church to marry, they get certain rights in exchange from the state for this. Like bishops having seats in the house of lords. If the poster you replied to had compalined to the Bishop the vicar would have found himself having the interview without tea and scones.

I'm struggling see on what grounds the gent in question could have submitted a complaint to the bishop.

Mojisola

adouglasmhor wrote: »

As I pointed out earlier, CofE are obliged by law to allow non members of the church to marry

But they would have to marry using the church's service - not the civil one that was wanted.

The vicar had every right to refuse permission to have a non-religious service in the church.

adouglasmhor

Mojisola wrote: »

But they would have to marry using the church's service - not the civil one that was wanted.

The vicar had every right to refuse permission to have a non-religious service in the church.

There is a different order of service though still religious for non members of the Church.

adouglasmhor

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I'm struggling see on what grounds the gent in question could have submitted a complaint to the bishop.

The Vicar should have explained about the order of service for non members which while mentioning god does not require the people getting married to be church members or believers.

Gloomendoom

adouglasmhor wrote: »

The Vicar should have explained about the order of service for non members which while mentioning god does not require the people getting married to be church members or believers.

How do you know that he/she didn't?

All we know for certain is that they said no to a civil wedding in their church.

cr1mson

Peter333 wrote: »

I would have said no too. Any decent vicar or minister who has a shred of respect for his faith and for the Christians who attend his Church would refuse such a vulgar request.



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Exactly! Utterly ridiculous, having a wedding in Church, but refusing to allow any religion to be mentioned. As many people have said on this thread, I bet no other religion would accept this; in fact a minister from any other religion would probably be extremely offended, and put his foot up your backside!

Not quite sure what is vulgar about wanting to get married in the place where I was from and parents still lived! The place where I had helped with the flowers, bell ringing, keeping the graveyard tidy etc. Could have easily pretended to be religious to do so but didn't want to start my marriage with a lie.

The difference with Christianity is that a lot of churches have a duality that other religious buildings don't. For instance as the only community building in our hamlet it was used as both a place of worship and as just a space for events, talks sales etc regardless of whether they were connected to the church.