NHS sick pay - zero after 12 months

tomtontom

[quote=[Deleted User];68354068]Irrelevant. All allowable in her contract of employment. Yes its been better than some employers but I can assure you she'd rather not have been ill. And its slippery slope if you're suggesting that people shouldn't get maternity pay now? :rotfl:

Fully expect a post to follow saying that she's cost the NHS this much blah blah blah. Like I always say, its easy to say when you're not the one in the situation and looking down.

I would bet my house that NO-ONE in the same situation would turn around and say to their employer - "You know what, its the good old NHS and I've had enough so tell you what, keep my pay for the next three months - I'll manage, you spent it on something else". Am I right?[/QUOTE]

Not irrelevant at all, and the fact you won't answer speaks volumes. I'm suggesting people should not manipulate the system.

I used to work in the NHS. When I became too sick to continue I resigned, I didn't keep on a merry go round exhausting my various entitlements.

And you wonder why public sector workers have a bad name - yes, because of people like you.

jackyann

Worked for the NHS for 40 years.
NHS sick pay is good, and managers are usually good about re-deployment /phased return etc.
An extension to sick leave is rare and only usually allowed in rather unusual circumstances ( I have only known it a couple of times)

If you cannot negotiate some sort of re-deployment or change in working conditions (often difficult in the NHS, although not always) then you are usually out after a year.

I don't know what job your wife does or what your circumstances are. I haven't read any of the other threads. I suggest that you consider whether she is eligible for any disability benefits; you could also consider her asking her employer to put her "on the bank" so that she can work when able.

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tomtontom wrote: »

Not irrelevant at all, and the fact you won't answer speaks volumes. I'm suggesting people should not manipulate the system.

I used to work in the NHS. When I became too sick to continue I resigned, I didn't keep on a merry go round exhausting my various entitlements.

And you wonder why public sector workers have a bad name - yes, because of people like you.

Well you know how it works then so you'll know how much she has got paid. 6 months half pay, 6 months full pay in a certain period. And I forget what maternity was.

Hardly manipulating the system is it? Hardly a big deal in this day and age when you've got people who've claimed benefits and never done a days work in their life (and never intend to).

No offence but you 'say' you resigned but its never something that we're going to know is true or not, is it?

Torry_Quine

I too think that expecting to get more sick pay is being a bit cheeky and I did work for the NHS before ill-health meant I had to stop.

[Deleted User]

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I too think that expecting to get more sick pay is being a bit cheeky and I did work for the NHS before ill-health meant I had to stop.

lol. True. Worth a try though :-)

Transformers

[quote=[Deleted User];68355200]lol. True. Worth a try though :-)[/QUOTE]

LOL? Is this a joke to you?

Your wife has received generous support whilst being off sick - during that period you both should have been planning for the worst case scenario if she couldn't return to work.

The NHS is there to serve the public - how the heck can they do that if they divert money into keeping staff at home on full pay for indefinite periods. Not only is that taking money away from front line services but taking the manpower away as well.

I can't believe you feel hard done by.

The reality is that your wife is too ill to work - and I am very sorry to hear that - plus there are no other roles suitable for her redeployment.

If your wife really knew her job, her illness and her organisation then she would have been able to predict that she would no longer be able to stay.

Any of us can get ill at any time - sadly, that's life. As is planning for such eventualities to ensure the financial wellbeing of our families rather than expecting someone else to do it for us.

FBaby

[quote=[Deleted User];68353833]6 months full pay, 6 months half pay not 18 months full pay BTW.
Yes the NHS has generous sick policy I will admit. Lucky - nope. You agree to a contract when you start employment - no luck about it.

But yes obviously an employer will not want to pay you indefinitely.[/QUOTE]

I recalled that she had two lots of long term sickness as well as two pregnancies. If that is wrong, my apology, but either way, it is a LOT of income for no work being provided.

How can it not be lucky to work for a very generous employer? That's why a lot of people are grateful to get a job within the NHS, because of the extra generous benefits in terms of holidays and sickness entitlements as well as flexible policies.

How would you have coped if she'd work for a private company that offered the minimum maternity leave and SMP?

[Deleted User]

FBaby wrote: »

I recalled that she had two lots of long term sickness as well as two pregnancies. If that is wrong, my apology, but either way, it is a LOT of income for no work being provided.

How can it not be lucky to work for a very generous employer? That's why a lot of people are grateful to get a job within the NHS, because of the extra generous benefits in terms of holidays and sickness entitlements as well as flexible policies.

How would you have coped if she'd work for a private company that offered the minimum maternity leave and SMP?

Just one pregnancy.

Not sure if lucky is the right word though. We make out own luck in this world. She worked hard to get the job she wanted working for the NHS - no-one knocked on our door one day and offered it to her.

But yes I do appreciate that sickness/maternity is pretty good for NHS but my point is thats part of the package. The pay maybe is not so good. If wanted to earn a fortune probably being a nurse is not the best career choice.

And yes people on minimum wage with little sickness offerings are worse of. But thats life.

[Deleted User]

Transformers wrote: »

LOL? Is this a joke to you?

Your wife has received generous support whilst being off sick - during that period you both should have been planning for the worst case scenario if she couldn't return to work.

The NHS is there to serve the public - how the heck can they do that if they divert money into keeping staff at home on full pay for indefinite periods. Not only is that taking money away from front line services but taking the manpower away as well.

I can't believe you feel hard done by.

The reality is that your wife is too ill to work - and I am very sorry to hear that - plus there are no other roles suitable for her redeployment.

If your wife really knew her job, her illness and her organisation then she would have been able to predict that she would no longer be able to stay.

Any of us can get ill at any time - sadly, that's life. As is planning for such eventualities to ensure the financial wellbeing of our families rather than expecting someone else to do it for us.

True enough but it does not mean that employees of the NHS should not expect to get what the sign up for. Anyone who suggests that they would work for less becasue its the NHS is lying...

I dont think I ever said we're hard done by though. Yes some of the admin stuff has been below par but aware that the sickness policy is pretty good. But anyone who says they'd turn down further sick pay rather than going to zero because its the NHS is lying.

GwylimT

[quote=[Deleted User];68366679]True enough but it does not mean that employees of the NHS should not expect to get what the sign up for. Anyone who suggests that they would work for less becasue its the NHS is lying...

I dont think I ever said we're hard done by though. Yes some of the admin stuff has been below par but aware that the sickness policy is pretty good. But anyone who says they'd turn down further sick pay rather than going to zero because its the NHS is lying.[/QUOTE]

So is my wife who gave up her job as a nurse a liar because she was no longer able to perform her duties? She could have got another 18 months work of money in her role but she chose not to as she felt incredibly guilty that she would be denying another person a job and was making her ward a nurse down, she didn't agree with reducing care quality.