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NHS sick pay - zero after 12 months

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  • Gavin83
    Gavin83 Posts: 8,757 Forumite
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    edited 3 April at 12:58PM
    [quote=[Deleted User];68331291]Not sure why you ask this question? Does it matter why she has been off?[/QUOTE]

    Potentially. However you answered the question in the post before mine so I'm unsure what's with the hostility. I didn't want specifics, just really wanted to know if it was a work related injury/stress at all.

    Anyway essentially it is up to the manager/HR. Unless you can prove any form of discrimination they are effectively free to do as they wish and stopping pay after 12 months is a standard practice. In my place you don't even have the option of extending pay after 12 months.

    When is she likely to be returning to work? That'll be the main question they'll be asking themselves. While they have some form of duty of care they can't be expected to keep her on full pay forever.
  • Gavin83 wrote: »
    Potentially. However you answered the question in the post before mine so I'm unsure what's with the hostility. I didn't want specifics, just really wanted to know if it was a work related injury/stress at all.

    Anyway essentially it is up to the manager/HR. Unless you can prove any form of discrimination they are effectively free to do as they wish and stopping pay after 12 months is a standard practice. In my place you don't even have the option of extending pay after 12 months.

    When is she likely to be returning to work? That'll be the main question they'll be asking themselves. While they have some form of duty of care they can't be expected to keep her on full pay forever.

    Gavin - Please accept my apologies.

    I assumed this was going to be a 'get off the sick, you've been there long enough, you sponger' type of thing - get a lot of that on here!

    At the moment, she is looking for redeployment to another department to do work that she may be able to do. In terms of going back to her current dept - probably not at all.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Let's face it from the employer's perspective: your wife hasn't really worked for years has she, in between her two pregnancies and two instances of sickness? She has cost the NHS quite a lot already.

    Not undermining her situation or entitlement, but why would they want to extend it and give her yet more money when she has provided so little back during all this time?
  • FBaby wrote: »
    Let's face it from the employer's perspective: your wife hasn't really worked for years has she, in between her two pregnancies and two instances of sickness? She has cost the NHS quite a lot already.

    Not undermining her situation or entitlement, but why would they want to extend it and give her yet more money when she has provided so little back during all this time?

    Very subtle Fbaby. Lets hope it never happens to you, eh? I'll bet you won't be stamping your feet and worrying about your contribution to YOUR employer then.
  • FBaby
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    It could happen to me (well not the pregnancies!), but if it did, I definitely know I would feel grateful rather than agrieved that I had received 18 months full pay whilst being ill the entire time (actually more adding the holiday she accrued during all this time). The NHS has the most generous sickness leave cover, so she was very lucky from that perspective to be entitled to all this income.

    Unfortunately, there comes a time when you have to accept that if you are ill and can't carry out your duties, you can't expect the employer to keep on paying you indefinitely.
  • Thomas_The_Tank_Top
    Thomas_The_Tank_Top Posts: 239 Forumite
    edited 3 April at 12:58PM
    [quote=[Deleted User];68343871]Very subtle Fbaby. Lets hope it never happens to you, eh? I'll bet you won't be stamping your feet and worrying about your contribution to YOUR employer then.[/QUOTE]

    If it did I would expect the same treatment your wife got.

    Anyway. Its almost over. Don't forget to come back and open up another five threads about your sense of entitlement.
  • FBaby wrote: »
    It could happen to me (well not the pregnancies!), but if it did, I definitely know I would feel grateful rather than agrieved that I had received 18 months full pay whilst being ill the entire time (actually more adding the holiday she accrued during all this time). The NHS has the most generous sickness leave cover, so she was very lucky from that perspective to be entitled to all this income.

    Unfortunately, there comes a time when you have to accept that if you are ill and can't carry out your duties, you can't expect the employer to keep on paying you indefinitely.

    6 months full pay, 6 months half pay not 18 months full pay BTW.
    Yes the NHS has generous sick policy I will admit. Lucky - nope. You agree to a contract when you start employment - no luck about it.

    But yes obviously an employer will not want to pay you indefinitely.
  • If it did I would expect the same treatment your wife got.

    Anyway. Its almost over. Don't forget to come back and open up another five threads about your sense of entitlement.

    I will don't worry. Sense of entitlement? You mean contractual obligation that her employer has got? I think you mean LEGAL entitlement here? Its different - look it up.
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    How much has she actually worked over the past few years?

    I exist Fbaby was referring to her period(s) of maternity pay, plus her holiday pay, on top of the sick pay. All adds up to a very healthy sum.
  • tomtontom wrote: »
    How much has she actually worked over the past few years?

    I exist Fbaby was referring to her period(s) of maternity pay, plus her holiday pay, on top of the sick pay. All adds up to a very healthy sum.

    Irrelevant. All allowable in her contract of employment. Yes its been better than some employers but I can assure you she'd rather not have been ill. And its slippery slope if you're suggesting that people shouldn't get maternity pay now? :rotfl:

    Fully expect a post to follow saying that she's cost the NHS this much blah blah blah. Like I always say, its easy to say when you're not the one in the situation and looking down.

    I would bet my house that NO-ONE in the same situation would turn around and say to their employer - "You know what, its the good old NHS and I've had enough so tell you what, keep my pay for the next three months - I'll manage, you spent it on something else". Am I right?
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