Tesco carparks

dexterwolf

I may have been on a Tesco carpark for just over the 3 hour limit. It says an £80 fine but is this legal as there is no machine to pay ? . I know that it is my own fault but just wondered if the fine if I get one is legal?

wealdroam

dexterwolf wrote: »

I may have been on a Tesco carpark for just over the 3 hour limit. It says an £80 fine but is this legal as there is no machine to pay ? . I know that it is my own fault but just wondered if the fine if I get one is legal?

Has this got anything to do with Public Transport or Cycling?

Suggest you ask a board guide to kindly move your query to The Parking Board.

Having said that, aren't there plenty of signs there?
Why would they have pay machines? Presumably they do not want people parking for more than three hours... and how would you put your eighty pounds into the pay machine?

enfield_freddy

you have not been fined , they have just sent you a speculative invoice , go to the parking forum , and ask , but please state which company sent you the toilet paper

tripled

Whether you hear anything may depend on how they administer it. A few years back I overstayed in a Tesco by an hour, and just got a Tesco branded letter telling me I'm a naughty boy and not to do it again. However these days I think most of them outsource and these third party companies are a bit more aggressive.

I'd suggest you hold tight, you may well not hear anything. If you do get an invoice (it's not a fine), come back to this forum (but perhaps to the parking board under motoring) for further advice.

macman

Isn't spending 3 hours in Tesco already punishment enough?

pogofish

dexterwolf wrote: »

I may have been on a Tesco carpark for just over the 3 hour limit. It says an £80 fine but is this legal as there is no machine to pay ? . I know that it is my own fault but just wondered if the fine if I get one is legal?

Get yourself into the Parking Tickets Forum and start by reading the Newbies Sticky carefully - all the background and info you need to get shot-of this is covered there.

anotheruser

enfield_freddy wrote: »

you have not been fined , they have just sent you a speculative invoice , go to the parking forum , and ask , but please state which company sent you the toilet paper

But this is where I have questioned many times.

The ruling surely is that it IS enforceable, but only up to the amount of money they have lost by you overstaying.

Potentially someone could have used that space and spent £80 in store, thus £80 is a fair price to pay?

If it's clearly not ever enforcible then why do supermarkets/train stations/councils even bother, as they just look silly surely?

enfield_freddy

the OP was advised to go to the parking forum , as cyclist have little knowledge of parking laws (well at least one)


1: no private company can fine you
2: private parking tickets have to abide by laws set in 2012 (pofa) and often don,t
3: private tickets are completely different than council or police ones

audigex

anotheruser wrote: »

But this is where I have questioned many times.

The ruling surely is that it IS enforceable, but only up to the amount of money they have lost by you overstaying.

Potentially someone could have used that space and spent £80 in store, thus £80 is a fair price to pay?
Yes, but the onus is on THEM to prove that
a) they actually lost any business
b) their customers spend an average of £80 in store

In practice, they'd have to prove that you took the last available space and prevented another customer entering the store....

If it's clearly not ever enforcible then why do supermarkets/train stations/councils even bother, as they just look silly surely?
Because even if 1 in 5 people pay up without fighting it, they make a profit... a lot of people don't know which are/aren't enforceable so just pay anyway

It's worth them doing it because some people pay up and it acts as a deterrent, not because they win a large number of cases in court.

enfield_freddy

I wish people would stop confusing invoices from private parking company's , with legitimate council tickets


dependant on the correct info being supplied , it could easily be found that the ticket issuer has no right to charge , and the only charge would be one of trespass brought by Tesco , and PS: they have lost nothing


still suggest the parking forum as being a better place to get advice on PRIVATE parking INVOICES

rdwarr

anotheruser wrote: »

Potentially someone could have used that space and spent £80 in store, thus £80 is a fair price to pay?

No.

Even if you did spend £80 in store it wouldn't all be profit for Tesco. Given their recent performance they'd probably manage to make a loss on it.

And the £80 goes into the pockets of the PPC, not Tesco.