Manifest Stupidity IV: The SNP Launch A Thousand Manfesti

CLAPTON

cepheus wrote: »

Fact Check: has austerity held back economic growth?



https://theconversation.com/fact-check-has-austerity-held-back-economic-growth-40578

well the SNP haven't spent all the money allocated to scotland so presumably they felt they had too much.


but the absurdity of the politically motivated idiots shows here

The assertion that fiscal austerity has “undermined our public services” comes close to being a tautology. To suggest otherwise you would have to argue that spending less on public services has only increased the efficiency with which they were delivered.

now how could anyone suggest that there was any scope for improving the efficiency of public services or that it could possibility lead to lower spending?

never ever happened in private sector has it?

BobQ

Its here....

http://votesnp.com/docs/manifesto.pdf

BobQ

Matts view..


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=11550663&cc=11507694

No 2

Generali

So the SNP Manifesto. The first thing I can report is that it's mercifully short so a hearty thanks to the Nats for that.

Tax (Comes under health for no obvious reason)
> End Austerity
> 0.5% of GDP pa of extra spending => £140bn squids extra to spend (I don't know why this is under health TBH)
> 50% top rate
> Tax on bankers' bonuses (fewer cigars sold?)
> Bank levy
> A 'crackdown on tax avoidance' (to prevent people from following tax law presumably)
> No more non doms
> No more spousal allowance swapping

Health
> Chuck money at the problem
> £24bn nominal/£9.5bn real increase in NHS spending
> £2bn nominal increase in Scottish NHS spending
> Reverse 'privatisation' of the NHS

Pensions
> Triple lock remains
> Minimum single person pension of £160/wk

Defence
> No Trident

Pay
> More of it

Child Poverty
> Less of it
> Free child care for unemployed people
> More money for disabled people
> More money for carers

Bedroom Tax
> Scrap the bedroom tax so the Scottish Government doesn't have to subsidise it and can spend more money on other things (housing benefit presumably)

Education
> Lower tuition fees for English students in England

EU
> Scots get to stop Britain leaving the EU if they vote for it (presumably the Auchtermuchty could keep Scotland in the UK in a future referendum)

Immigration
> They will definitely do something about this. Unclear as to whether they think it's a good or a bad thing.

Housing
> Help to Buy to continue
> More affordable housing

Jobs
> More subsidies for companies to employ people
> Can earn more before benefits are cut back
> End zero hours contracts (despite the majority on them being satisfied with their lot)

Energy
> Keep open an unneeded, massive coal fired power station

Environment
> Reduce CO2 output (e.g. close coal powered power stations, especially those outside Scotland)

Equality
> 50% women on boards
> 100% women leading the SNP

Constitution
> Scrap the House of Lords (no mooted replacement)
> PR

Home Rule
> Want independence 'but that's not what this election is about'
> Deliver Smith Commission recommendations in full
> Smith Commission isn't very good
> Full financial responsibility
> FFR later on though

Tories
> Just say No! to Conservatism

kabayiri

Hey, what's not to like?

Okay, a few more lines about being nice to Kittens would have given it a bit more cuddle-appeal, but still....

...go SNP !

Simply
Nice
People

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

Hey, what's not to like?

Apart from the very obvious lack of costing of the manifesto, nothing.

Even bloody UKIP and the Greens have had a go at showing how they'd balance the books. The SNP promise jam today, tomorrow and for all time.

kabayiri

Generali wrote: »

Apart from the very obvious lack of costing of the manifesto, nothing.

Even bloody UKIP and the Greens have had a go at showing how they'd balance the books. The SNP promise jam today, tomorrow and for all time.

You'd not get away with trying to sell a car or house or insurance policy or health plan using such hogwash.

So why do we let them get away with something so important as the entire nation's fiscal outlook drafted out on the back of a fag packet.

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

You'd not get away with trying to sell a car or house or insurance policy or health plan using such hogwash.

So why do we let them get away with something so important as the entire nation's fiscal outlook drafted out on the back of a fag packet.

It's lunacy.

The tax plans boil down to extracting as much as possible from bankers and banks plus increasing taxes on perhaps a hundred thousand people and scrapping Trident.

Spending commitments are massive if vague (cut student fees for the English to £????). Jam for all though.

I fear for the future if this is how British politics is going. I can promise the moon on a stick but I'll bankrupt the country if I actually go through with it.

cepheus

Of course according to several professional economists, austerity as described by the main parties is the worst economic strategy. Don't expect to hear this on the Beeb and certainly not the commercial stations. The only thing austerity/QE promotes is real asset price inflation for top investors, which is why it's so popular with the right wing establishment which still includes Labour of course. The Scots are too politically educated to fall for the rich man's narrative.

Top economist attacks Tory austerity – and Labour's limp response
Nobel prize-winner Paul Krugman says both parties are ‘in effect promising a new round of austerity that might well hold back a recovery’ after election

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/28/top-economist-attacks-tory-austerity-labours-limp-response-paul-krugman?CMP=share_btn_tw

Generali

cepheus wrote: »

Of course according to several professional economists, austerity as described by the main parties is the worst economic strategy. Don't expect to hear this on the Beeb and certainly not the commercial stations. The only thing austerity/QE promotes is real asset price inflation for top investors, which is why it's so popular with the right wing establishment which still includes Labour of course. The Scots are too politically educated to fall for the rich man's narrative.



http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/28/top-economist-attacks-tory-austerity-labours-limp-response-paul-krugman?CMP=share_btn_tw

Mr Krugman has spent the last 5 years being wrong on austerity in the UK.

FWIW, Mr Krugman won his prize for international trade so the fact that he won the award doesn't give him any particular additional weight when it comes to commenting on macro economics.