DLA or WTC may go !!

benniebert

50Twuncle wrote: »

In my condition ?

How would I know? But if you don't try you'll never know what you can do

benniebert

serenity2012 wrote: »

It should absolutely be means tested. No problem with low incomes getting the help but people who are financially ok should not get it. Hope it passes and all the money given to those on higher incomes can be better spent elsewhere. I've always felt the same way about child benefit too. Don't believe anyone should get it. People choose to have children poor and rich alike. Why is anyone paid for the pleasure?

I can't add anything to that view - my feelings entirely.

Murphybear

benniebert wrote: »

I'm alright Jack comes to mind?


From when the State Pension first started back in 1948, a male started to get it when they reached 65. It was the norm that by age 70 most would have died off.


Now we have pensioners living on average to 85+.


The contributions you have paid in were not put into a little pot with your name on it. They went to others that you supported whilst you worked.
Now we have fewer people supporting people who are living longer. How would you suggest that this should work?


Unlike you, I do feel guilty in receiving my State Pension of over £190 a week. Is it right that I should be expecting the workers of today to fund it?

If you feel guilty then give it to charity. And why should anyone feel guilty for getting a pension?

mkcj

Carers allowance has always been taxable.


I am horrified by how many people on here, both on this thread and others think that Carers Allowance should be means tested.


Please read this article in the Guardian:-


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/31/carers-deserve-a-livable-income

Indie_Kid

mkcj wrote: »

Carers allowance has always been taxable.


I am horrified by how many people on here, both on this thread and others think that Carers Allowance should be means tested.


Please read this article in the Guardian:-


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/31/carers-deserve-a-livable-income

Carers allowance is already means tested and is something I've never agreed with.

benniebert

skcollobcat10 wrote: »

I do think we have to care for the elderly and the profoundly disabled, both could have had problems with regards to various governments over the years changing the goal posts as to what is allowed to be claimed for and what is not.


They chose to make the claim in the first place. It shouldn't come as a surprise that benefits change over time you only have to look at the way DLA changed the system in 1992.
Like anything you do have to take the risk when relying on benefits over a period of time.

I remember there were women on the married woman's stamp and now some of these women won't get a full pension when they retire.



Those women knew what they were doing when they opted out of the normal NI track and went down the cheaper version of a reduced rate stamp.

Some disabled are struck down with illness or disability at an early stage in their working career and therefore have not had the ability to save. I am sure you would not want them to live hand to mouth for the rest of their lives.


No one needs to live hand to mouth in this country. If they financially need to claim benefits then they are entitled to do so. What annoys me is that not only do people get the relevant disability benefit but they get a premium, another payment because they get the first one - what is all that about?

I sometimes wonder what has happened to this country. Where has the idea of family taking responsibility for their elderly relatives gone to?

Squabble_fixer

benniebert wrote: »

of course there are others.


You can get 6 months of contributory jsa and 12 months of contributory esa.
Why then should the state pension pay out for life?

message to benniebert
honestly, we have just about had enough of your b******.

In spite of being a newbie you have made over 500 posts whinging and complaining about other people especially legitimately claiming benefits and pensions. Who cares if you feel guilty, you are full of sanctimonious claptrap. There are lots of nice people on this forum, you are not one of them. I can't believe you've made it to retirement age you should have been strangled at birth:(

nannytone_2

benniebert wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what has happened to this country. Where has the idea of family taking responsibility for their elderly relatives gone to?

i don't think people have changed.
they still want to care for older family members, but they can't afford to give up work in order to do it!
when i was young, my father worked and my mother stayed at home with the 3 kids.
my daughter is married with 2 kids and is lucky enough to live in social housing, but they BOTH still have to work in order to keep their heads above water.
that is what is different ... not the amount they care

Murphybear

Keep it nice people:A

fed_up_and_stressed

Londonsu wrote: »

That's because JSA and ESA is for working age people who can always get a job before their Contribution based benefits runs out.


Pensioners are at the end of their working life (unless like my Dad they choose to keep on working)

Yes im sure employers would be delighted to employ someone who is say recently diagnosised with the fatal disease Huntingdons Chorea mid life or the severely disabling Primary Progressive MS again (average age of diagnosis roughly 30's /40's). These people likely have families so rely on contribution based Esa if they have partners who do manage to work. (As would not be eligible for income based if partner does work)

These people can't "just" go and find work if say ESA(c) is pulled as the tories are bandying about.