Car clocked

bod1467

If you look on Autotrader and the like, what's your car worth now? (Displayed mileage versus actual/estimated mileage). Somewhere around the latter price would be a fair buy-back price from the dealer.

chickendipperbabe

Pretty much what the others have said. You've had three years of trouble free use from the car and now expect a full refund of the 4k you paid back in 2012 Hmmmmm.

The dealer sounds reasonable, you admit it was a lot cheaper than other equivalent models for sale at the time and bought it with no service history - obvious warning signs something was amiss. If there is a mileage discrepancy you'll struggle to shift the car, If I were in the same position I would take the dealer offer.

If you see the same car back in his forecourt in a week or so again with 69k miles let us know.

bod1467

chickendipperbabe wrote: »

Pretty much what the others have said. You've had three years of trouble free use from the car and now expect a full refund of the 4k you paid back in 2012 Hmmmmm.

To be fair ... dealer offered £1500 and OP is only seeking £2000. So £500 less than it was worth 3 years ago, and £2000 less than they paid. Subject to the answers to my post #22, I don't think the OP is being unreasonable.

wealdroam

grumpygrumpy wrote: »

The dealer can't prove it either. And it doesn't matter what he wrote on the paperwork, the paperwork is for the exchange of money, not for the condition of the car. My husband has a friend who works for a legal firm and this is what he told us.

Then get your husband's friend to quote the legislation that backs that.

Of course it matters what was written down.
Everything the salesman wrote, and everything the salesman said, form part of the sale contract.
The difficulty with confirming what was said at the time is obvious, but everything in writing is indisputable.

The fact that he wrote that the mileage should not be relied upon, means, err... the mileage should not be relied upon.

grumpygrumpy

At first we thought the mechanic was trying to scam us so we paid for our own AA HPI check and it came back with the same results. The car is an 07 reg, in 2009 it had done over 127,000 miles and then in 2010 it was down to 53,000. We purchased the car in 2012.

Ollimae

I can't believe some of the nasty replies on here. By law the dealer should have checked the mileage when the car was up for sale.
I found this from the CAB and if I was grumpygrumpy I'd report him to trading standards and the police.

Disclaimers

A dealer can be prosecuted for selling a car with a false mileage, even if they didn't alter it themselves. Dealers are supposed to do what they can to check the mileage of a car before they sell it.
Don't let the dealer fob you off by saying when you bought the car there was a disclaimer sign saying the mileage wasn't confirmed. The dealer can't avoid their responsibility to try to confirm the car's mileage. A disclaimer won't always protect them from prosecution.
Point out to the dealer that they are in breach of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations.

And


GARAGE owner Rhidian Goddard has been ordered to pay more than £115,000 after he admitted allowing clocked cars to be sold from his forecourt.
The sum must be found and paid within the next six months or Goddard, who runs Hilltop Garage, Eastington, faces three years in prison.
This man selling that car to grumpygrumpy knew the mileage was suspect just as this dealer did or he would have charged more.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves when someone new comes to ask for advice.

Forwandert

Its not as clear as that, OP states when they purchased the car they also completed a HPI check on the car and it didnt come back with the discrepancy in the mileage, nothing to say the dealer didnt complete the same checks and get the same results.

davetrousers

grumpygrumpy wrote: »

Hi,
For some reason when my husband did a HPI check the mileage issue never appeared!?!?

Don't you get some kind of guarantee from the HPI check?

Might be worth checking.

grumpygrumpy

Thanks will have to look into the Hpi check.

mije1983

davetrousers wrote: »

Don't you get some kind of guarantee from the HPI check?

Might be worth checking.

The OP says the HPI check her husband did had no mention of mileage. So if a guarantee is offered, it would surely only apply to the accuracy of the information they DID provide?