Nice People Thread No. 14, all Nice and Proper

zagubov

Nikkster wrote: »

Not to mention the cost and societal benefits of antibiotic resistance not marching forward quite as quickly...

I remember in 81,working in a hospital path lab and we found a bacterium that was sensitive to penicillin rather than resistant. The whole lab gathered round to look at the plate as we hadn't seen this in donkey's years.

This was less than forty years after it was first used as a "miracle drug".

I worry that the universe offered us a free lunch and we let a dog eat it for us.

mystic_trev

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Have just spent a few days engaged in dialogue and negotiation with people whose views I detest and whose values I abhor.

SNP Party Conference?

michaels

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Have just spent a few days engaged in dialogue and negotiation with people whose views I detest and whose values I abhor.

There must be more to life than this.

Can't wait to get on the road.

Well that's the SNP for ya

lostinrates

Nikkster wrote: »

Not to mention the cost and societal benefits of antibiotic resistance not marching forward quite as quickly...

This too. I have had one anti biotic ( which has had brilliant results ) four times I think in last ...I dunno...18 months ish? Not aware quite. But we still haven't worked out what it is its actually treating. This to me is a bit strange....but tbh, and I feel ashamed because its not the way I like to do things...now I know they will give it to me and I can get the relief through it....I just take it. This time I am taking that and two others for the first time. Seems even nuttier to me.

I have a fairly decent idea of to patient costs of lab fees....guessing in NHS scale they can be some savings.....no embossed paper with results etc etc But no idea of drug costs to make short term comparison of economic wisdom. Longterm to society these decisions seem not very conscientious, and to my own care they seem a bit iffy.


But I also agree with GDb, that the NHs has obligation to keep costs down. I think were I in the drs position and not restricted otherwise I would have run labs, started on one antibiotic afterwards to get me started and seen next week of the others were going to be necessary or not. Then the most pressing infection could be treated, and that along might cover others, or give my body robustness to fight the others better.

SingleSue

michaels wrote: »

Don't they just tell everyone to take more vit D on the grounds it is unlikely to do any harm and vit d paid for by the patient is much cheaper than doing a test?

How are you Darling LIR generally?

In the raft of tests the doctor performed earlier in the year on me, one was for vit D....it came back I was deficient.

Rather than trying to find out why, they just told me to buy the tablets and follow their diet sheet, only problem there is that my diet is already rich in vit D, either through the sun, food or tablets!

It can however be a complication of the EDS.....

Spirit_2

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But I also agree with GDb, that the NHs has obligation to keep costs down. I think were I in the drs position and not restricted otherwise I would have run labs, started on one antibiotic afterwards to get me started and seen next week of the others were going to be necessary or not. Then the most pressing infection could be treated, and that along might cover others, or give my body robustness to fight the others better.[/QUOTE]

I think your GP is making up their own policy. Mine would do the testing, and is very reluctant to prescribe antibugs as prophylactic without evidence of what it is being treated. In can understand you going with it , to get the relief, however if this is recurrent and not something prevelent in the community warranting a standard treatmenr you need a proper diagnosis.

Spirit_2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Have just spent a few days engaged in dialogue and negotiation with people whose views I detest and whose values I abhor.

There must be more to life than this.

Can't wait to get on the road.

It could be worse , you could be a banker.

I started my working life in the defence industry. Key customers were Libya, Iraq and Iran. They were known by code names to disguise the destination of products. It was at the time of the shooting of PC Yvonne Fletcher and the Iran/Iraq war.

When I moved to the NHS I got real pleasure from being part of a product that saved lives and improved health. Where the market was Jo Public and the culture at that time, somewhat naively, had values of collaboration rather than competition, and none of the prized commercial ethos that drives corporations to conduct that makes individual decent staff cringe, in pursuit of profit and consequential personal gain.

Spirit_2

Driving one handed, using a lollipop attachment to the steering wheel was horrible. My spatial awareness is somewhat off and I hugged the hedges on the left hand side of the country lanes around here. Too much hugging as the instructor kept lunging for the wheel to return us to a more centered position.

I was terrified and exhausted and cut short the two hour lesson as I was too tired to carry on.

On the bright side,we drove routes to all my current frequent destinations and driving on main roads was much easier and there was room for people to overtake me.

Istructor said it was quite normal for post stroke people to have reduced spatial awareness, that I was "quite good" (:eek:) and that I will improve with practice.

I have put back delivery of my car until 7th November , It was due Monday but my licence is not issued yet and I cannot get insurance.

I think I am going to get my moneys worth out of the cover I bought for minor scratches and kerbed alloys.

lostinrates

Spirit wrote: »

I think your GP is making up their own policy. Mine would do the testing, and is very reluctant to prescribe antibugs as prophylactic without evidence of what it is being treated. In can understand you going with it , to get the relief, however if this is recurrent and not something prevelent in the community warranting a standard treatmenr you need a proper diagnosis.

The testing relates to vit d, not anti bug.....but I hope you are right. It does seem this area health authority is a bit odd.

Doozergirl

Feeling happier this morning. Proud of little one and have researched the school bus times. In reality it only extends her school journey by fifteen minutes.

Even though she schools reltaively near to home now, she has had to come out to DS's schools first for the last four years so her journey has always been around 45 minutes.

If she goes to this one, we'll leave 15 minutes earlier and he'll have a longer school run while we get her to the stop on the outskirts of Brum. She'll then be on the bus for 45 minutes with her mates.

I can pick her up when I need to as DS finishes very late.

Not impossible at all. Still plenty of choice.