Not happy with installation of Central heating-ADVISE

andyhop

Having read though this again why on earth would the heating flow and returns rise to above then drop down to each ground floor radiator . If you have suspended floors then its easier to take one riser above, one below

The cost in tube would be excessive , there is far more to this than what the OP is letting on

Cypherite

Is that powered from a fused spur? Hard to tell from the picture. Is there an isolation point above the boiler?

Mrs_Imp

Who decided on the location of the radiators?

adonis

Seronera wrote: »

That looks OK to me.That's a standard install practice.and looks neat enough.what else was he supposed to do in that location?

Couldn't he have run the pipes in the corner the other side of the radiator away from the door? and why bend the pipes instead of using solder elbows..

rockin_plumber

I haven't noticed the OP mention the ground floors are wooden,
The one picture of a rad piped up coming through a wooden floor could be on the first floor.
The rad with the lovely carpet and the towel rail both on drops may be concrete floors, we don't know, so drops to ground floor radiators maybe the only option.
And the last time I went on a water regulations course water pipes were not meant to be buried in outside walls, so chopping them into walls isn't an option if its an outside wall.
Put them in the corner or drop behind curtains, but shiny copper will stand out until painted.


What is a bit strange is the fact the boiler is on the first floor and the heating pipes go up into the attic?

rockin_plumber

adonis wrote: »

Couldn't he have run the pipes in the corner the other side of the radiator away from the door? and why bend the pipes instead of using solder elbows..

Bends equal less restriction on the flow of water compared to an elbow.

NICHOLAS_2

Seronera wrote: »

I don't think you have worked in many properties have you. Of course it shouldn't leak. I've spent enough years dealing with heating installations to know what actually happens when you mix human beings, carpet fitters, electricians, DIY 'experts', Sky installers, kitchen fitters, and anybody else you can think of with a wet heating system, not to mention the fact that pipes can corrode and corrode far worse if they are in walls.

There is a strong case for using drops you fail to acknowledge and that shows your inexperience. It avoids disrupting the floor downstairs whether its suspended or not. If the floor is in good condition then lifting floorboards can only create problems as you have to damage the tongue and groove doing it or cut little access hatches that are difficult to replace neatly. Its not as clear cut as you would have us believe. Where appropriate its nice to get things underfloor, but whether you like it or not it is perfectly acceptable practice to do as he has done and run the Flow and Returns under the landing upstairs and into each bedroom underfloor and then use drops from the landing F&R to downstairs.

The company I used to work for was a big installer who worked to high standards with independent inspection regimes and this was never questioned as it minimises disruption to the downstairs. We were often working in houses that were being lived in, were fully furnished with fitted carpets, sometimes with built in bookshelves and other furniture where it was simply not an option to go ripping up the floors.

I can see we will never agree so I'm not going to comment further. I just hope the OP gets it sorted to their satisfaction. If necessary they should perhaps pay another installer to give an opinion as to whether its satisfactory or not and what the practical alternatives are.

COme off it will you, when ever we fit central heating if the ground floor is boards, the pipes go under the boards. As long as the board gets screwed back down who cares about a bit of tongue missing

Running pipes like that is always hideous.

phill99

Andyhop is right. There is a lot more to this than meets the eye. People on hete are making assumptions based on what the OP wants to tell us. There are 2 sides to a story, but it seems here that people on here are police, judge, jury and executioner in one go. We aren't seeing how all of the pipes are run nor the reason the boiler is in such a location.

unclebulgaria

Doozergirl you mentioned the piping running in the middle of the wall, its actually sitting above what looks like a 7" skirting board. Also one of those floors has what looks like vinyl tiles, if they are then its a solid floor. You also mention path of least resistance, is this water resistance or what you consider to be the easiest route, either way your suggestion entails a hell of a lot of copper and greater pipe runs which would resistance within the pipework. His pipework, other than the boiler is neat, he's fitted into the door frame and not the middle of the wall. There isn't a heating engineer on here who could say he'd have done a better job unless the OP had wanted to put more money into it.
I'd like to know how much the job cost so we can give a better response to the installation.
You've said yourself you've not done an apprenticeship so I'm guessing you've not actually got your hands dirty installing a CH system anytime?
I'm with Seronera and Phill on this. He hasn't been lazy as suggested, he's spaced his clips properly and labelled the gas pipe.

Davesnave

I'm not any kind of heating engineer, but faced with the possibility of pipes going down a wall in one location in my solid floored bungalow, I chased out the wall for them. Took about 15 minutes, maybe a bit more. Messy, but containable.

So, there are certainly cost implications doing this, but some people are implying it is a Bad Idea as well.

I had radiator pipes let into the walls in another bungalow I owned, No problems.

I had water, heating and gas pipes in the walls in the first house I owned. Total s o d putting the gas pipes in that one due to the composition of the walls and tools of that era, but we did it.

In this house, all the radiator pipework from 1974 to the point of renewal, right now, has been in the concrete floors.

So what, exactly, are the 'problems' I may have in burying the pipes?