Ford Focus 1.6TDCi - Info needed please

Spicy_McHaggis

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

their looking for a 2011 -2012 (2nd facelift) should be fine its a different shape to the 09 model

They're probably best off looking at other engines.

Marktheshark

Astronaughtwannabe wrote: »

I get well above 44-46, then again I drive like a nun.

The on board Fuel computer is extremely optimistic on Fords , you find a brim test leaves you slightly miffed at just how much it exaggerates the MPG .


The main issue on Fords is mileage, they do not age well and high miles are rare, you see them up for scrap around 120k on 56 + plates due to failing DMF and injectors and the worst of them all suspension subframe issues.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

They're probably best off looking at other engines.

that's for the OP to decide, im just stating that turbo problem was sorted with the upgraded version of that engine fitted to newer models after 2010 IIRC could be early as late 08 2009.

xHannahx

We sent our citroen with same engine back to the finance company it became so terribly unreliable. It was a 2010 with 65k on clock. Turbo issues, egr, being the main issues, the turbo got it sent by the finance co though.

Is it worth paying out for a diesel? Diesels are typically more expensive to buy, more expensive to service, more expensive per gallon of fuel at a petrol station.
On a longish journey I would expect 40-45mpg from a 1.6 petrol. Diesel round 60 - 65mpg, so the Astra would be about £2.50 - £3 a day dearer for petrol, or in monetary terms the Astra would be about £600 to £700 a year more fuel assuming 5 day weeks and 4 weeks annual leave, but how much extra would the diesel cost to buy over a petrol?
Looking online a 2012 1.6 diesel focus with 30-40k is typically around £8.5k, compared to the same age and mileage 1.6 petrol typically around £5.5k, so it would take 4-5 years for the diesel to recover the extra £3k purchase costs. Looking at mpg along is false economy.

Astronaughtwannabe

Marktheshark wrote: »

The on board Fuel computer is extremely optimistic on Fords , you find a brim test leaves you slightly miffed at just how much it exaggerates the MPG .


The main issue on Fords is mileage, they do not age well and high miles are rare, you see them up for scrap around 120k on 56 + plates due to failing DMF and injectors and the worst of them all suspension subframe issues.

Must admit, I'm just relying on the car computer so I'll do a brim test at some point. I just assumed it would be accurate.

richy999

xHannahx wrote: »

Is it worth paying out for a diesel? Diesels are typically more expensive to buy, more expensive to service, more expensive per gallon of fuel at a petrol station.

I would agree with this.


With my sensible head still on, have you considered just keeping your current car?
Assuming you would be part exchanging, the dealer's margin on the transaction would probably cover your extra petrol for a year or two.


With my daft head on... it is as good excuse as any to treat yourself to a new car



On balance, I would advise sticking with your current car for a month or two to see how you cope with it on the longer journey.

forgotmyname

My last car was about 8mpg higher on the computer than in real life. If i reset the computer at every fill up it was more accurate.

C_Mababejive

Why dont Ford have their own home grown engine rather than a pug?

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

To work it out, you need to know how much mileage you are going to do. Depreciation due to the extra mileage will not make that much difference between petrol and diesel, so you are really looking at recovering the 10p a litre extra for diesel by significantly better mpg. We can assume that insurance costs are similar too, and there is some debate on maintenance costs, but let's assume they are similar.

Let's not be too optimistic on the mpg of the journey, but give diesel the benefit.

Distance / fuel used X cost of fuel (litres x conversion to gallons)

12k / 50mpg x ( £1.20 x 4.54) = £1307

12k/ 35mpg x ( £1.10 x 4.54) = £1712

So the extra spend of a mediocre efficiency car is about £400 a year for the commute. That tells you that if you spend £1000 to change your car to save fuel, it would take 3 years to recover the cost. Of course you have the benefit on non-commuting use, but that should give you the idea that even a large difference in mpg needs a pretty high mileage to recover a a couple of thousand spent on upgrading the car.

GolfBravo

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Why dont Ford have their own home grown engine rather than a pug?

The 1.6 DLD engine is jointly developed by Ford and Peugeot. The Ford/Volvo version (TDCi) is manufactured in Dagenham, the Peugeot/Citroen Version (HDi) is manufactured in France.