Fixed Penalty - Cycle box at red light

UKMikey

Today I stopped in my car at a red light only to see a police officer noting my license plate then signaling to others on the other side of the junction to pull me over. When I pulled over and got out I was told that I had encroached into the cycle box immediately in font of me at the lights and that this was an offence (offence code 160).

I told them that I may have just been over by a bumpers width but with no cyclists anywhere in the area there was no possible threat or danger posed. However, they issued me with a fine of (get this) £100!! and 3 Points!!.

This would put this offence on a par with 100 mph down the motorway or speeding past a school or hospital etc. Has anyone had this done to them or successfully appealed as this is what I'm considering doing.

Any advice greatly appreciated

Umkomaas

We here are more focused on private parking tickets. You are best seeking expert advice on police-issued penalties over on PePiPoo. Here's your link:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=5

nickcc

You could challenge the offence in court but risk a greater fine and costs if you lose. As I understand it ( but more than happy to be corrected) it's the position of the wheels and not the body of the car that mustn't cross into the box section, same as yellow line parking restrictions.

C_Mababejive

Its an outrage but unfortunately under rule 178 of the highway code, it appears you have committed and offence

https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183

It will be flavour of the day for coppers soon. They will be issuing FPs to motorists for this whilst every other criminal goes about their business .

andy13

The Highway code isn't law.

Tilt

andy13 wrote: »

The Highway code isn't law.

Not entirely true. Some rules (such as the one in this case) ARE supported by legislation.

lescm19

But it says in the Highway Code there: " If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. "
That's because there are 2 stop lines, the meaning being if you cannot stop safely for the first one then you must stop for the 2nd one, leaving you stranded in the cycle box.
I would say they don't know the detail of these new regs. This is what the London Taxi Driver Association told us regarding getting stranded in the box but yeah Pepipoo is the best place for this.

UKMikey

This seems to be purely an act of money grabbing from easy victims, drivers. With our soldiers being attacked and having their heads chopped off in the streets and the country on a high terror alert I just can't believe the police spending their time doing this. They have now forever lost a long time supporter. How to win friends and influence people. Not!

wiogs

UKMikey wrote: »

This seems to be purely an act of money grabbing from easy victims, drivers. With our soldiers being attacked and having their heads chopped off in the streets and the country on a high terror alert I just can't believe the police spending their time doing this. They have now forever lost a long time supporter. How to win friends and influence people. Not!

Overreact much?

OP stopped in the wrong place and was done for it. Simple really.

newbie1980

wiogs wrote: »

Overreact much?

OP stopped in the wrong place and was done for it. Simple really.

But it says in the Highway Code there: " If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. "
That's because there are 2 stop lines, the meaning being if you cannot stop safely for the first one then you must stop for the 2nd one, leaving you stranded in the cycle box.
I would say they don't know the detail of these new regs. This is what the London Taxi Driver Association told us regarding getting stranded in the box but yeah Pepipoo is the best place for this.

Not_Scammed

I agree with the previous post:

Rule 178 makes it quite clear you can stop at the 2nd white line if necessary:

"If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area."

I'd be asking down at the nick whether they are prepared to show video proof that this wasn't the situation.