Blue Badge rejection

50Twuncle

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

DLA [HRM] is without further assessment and 8 points or more under the ‘Moving Around’ activity of the mobility component of PIP [because they cannot stand and walk (aided or unaided) more than 50 metres] is without further assessment and a legislative link to automatic Blue Badge eligibility is provided for. Anyone outside this criterion can and should if the feel they deserve it apply for a blue badge 'subject to further assessment'.

NOTE : An average adult step is just less than one metre, which is 1.1 yards or 3 feet and 4 inches. If you walk alongside someone and they take 100 steps you would have walked roughly 90 metres, or 100 yards. they then take into account total time, time with rest and time of rest, shortness of breath, uphill or level, breathlessness, and many dozens of other things.

If at the end of this qualified occupational therapist delivered 'subject to further assessment' 'independent mobility assessment' you are deemed to be worthy you get a blue badge. If anyone feels they were refused unfairly they should appeal in writing stating why they feel they are entitled to a Blue Badge, giving specific information on the conditions that impact your mobility. All costs if you are again refused by a different qualified occupational therapist in my view should be borne by the applicant.

Best of luck.

Thanks - on my application form, I put down the fact that whilst I can walk unaided for up to 50 yards - I do tend to fall, regularly and also it takes me a considerable time and also depends on how much pain I am in on that day (sometimes, I may be able to achieve more !!) - By which time, my condition will probably have deteriorated considerably.
I didn't appeal, because (whilst an official appeal is not possible) I believed that this was pointless and I had another chance to apply in 6 months time......
I expected, at the very least, an assessment - but I just received a short, blunt letter telling me that I had failed to meet the criteria for a BB !!

JJ_Egan

Rejection can simply be a case of filling in the form and not qualify due to the boxes ticked .Appeal and take care reading the form and use Age Concern handbook from your local library that gives the points criterion for many benefits .

As to the blue badge users getting out and walking comment as usual its nonsense from the OP .There are many reasons for a blue badge not all obvious and many will only come on after walking to far .Yet the OP expects a blue badge for a bad knee .

50Twuncle

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Yet the OP expects a blue badge for a bad knee .

Have you any idea what a HYPEREXTENDED knee is like ?
It is more than just a "bad knee" ....
There is no permanent cure and the outlook is poor !!

JJ_Egan

50Twuncle wrote: »

Have you any idea what a HYPEREXTENDED knee is like ?
It is more than just a "bad knee" ....
There is no permanent cure and the outlook is poor !!

Just like your assumption in post one then .

< What annoys me is that I regularly see people, parking their blue badged cars on double yellow lines and walking away to the shops etc without any problems at all....>>

50Twuncle

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Just like your assumption in post one then .

< What annoys me is that I regularly see people, parking their blue badged cars on double yellow lines and walking away to the shops etc without any problems at all....>>

Possibly - yes, but in my case - I do have a serious problem !!
Can you imagine - if your knee was constantly being forced back against itself then a little bit more - that is what a hyperextended knee is like - constant pain - not just a bad knee !!

Richie-from-the-Boro

benniebert wrote: »

If that is the case, why then I have I heard over the weekend of someone that has had HRM of DLA since the mid 90's, regularly has a Motability car, gets an automatic BB, yet has failed to get anywhere near the 8 points of PIP despite a MR?

It's a complete joke to be honest. Even the genuine cases are being refused.
His car was repossessed 3 weeks after he failed the assessment, he has handed back his BB and is now more or less housebound due to not having any public transport links where he lives.


Additionally he didn't make the grade for the caring side either even though he was awarded MRC for the same length of time.

Many many of those IB transitions [in particular] were not migrated to PIP under the new criteria. In a sentence someone recently underwent an actual real world test and failed. In the 90's and 2000's there was no real test, you filled in a 'self assessment' and stayed on incapacity benefit & DLA / SDA till around 2011 when they began WCA / PCA. An appeal is the best option if refused, in fact everyone should appeal every time.

benniebert

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

An appeal is the best option if refused, in fact everyone should appeal every time.

Unfortunately not everybody has the mental or physical ability to go through a MR with what it entails, and certainly they would not dream of ever attending a Tribunal - the stress alone could possible cause further health problems. Some spend as much time in hospital as they do out of it. Personally I cannot see those people lying in their hospital bed drafting a submission.
I understand what you are saying and why you are saying it. But please be a little bit realistic.

There are many, myself included that could not face the prospect of fighting what generally is a lost battle with the DWP.

Richie-from-the-Boro

benniebert wrote: »

Unfortunately not everybody has the mental or physical ability to go through a MR with what it entails, and certainly they would not dream of ever attending a Tribunal - the stress alone could possible cause further health problems. Some spend as much time in hospital as they do out of it. Personally I cannot see those people lying in their hospital bed drafting a submission.
I understand what you are saying and why you are saying it. But please be a little bit realistic.

There are many, myself included that could not face the prospect of fighting what generally is a lost battle with the DWP.

- I am realistic, 100% realistic, 100% impartial, 100% tell it like it is
- everyone has a different self-defence why they were unfairly treated
- the DWP / DM is not remotely interested, doing nothing is precisely what they want
- this individual failed the test, appeal or don't appeal are the 2 simple stark choices
- asking me to """please be a little bit realistic""" is an insult, 10's of 1000's of posts on this very board
- and three years and 1000's of posts later, in an entirely subjective and emotional post you say """please be a little bit realistic"""

Cry, stamp your foot, do what you will. An actual appeal and the right evidence may get another chance to 'fit' into the 12 activities, descriptors and points criteria - subjective and emotional whining will get you nothing - get a grip my friend !

Richie-from-the-Boro

benniebert - Last Activity: Today 8:28 PM - came / read the thread 6 minutes after my #19 post.

There never was an automatic transfer of existing DLA claimants on to PIP, your were always going to be reassessed under the much harsher PIP criteria. It took a long three years, and many casualties and broken people to get a concession on face-to-face assessment adjustment out of ATOS / DWP. Most of the benefit of face2face rightly skews any benefits gained in favour of the MH group. For god's sake take it - it was hard won, you will only ever get to a face2face if you put in an appeal - and win that appeal.

Marktheshark

Obtaining Disabled Benefits of any kind is a "trade" some have it passed down families, other share the secrets amongst friends.
Its a tick box and correct buzzword menatility that gets people the benefits.
Honesty does not.

You need to re-apply using the right secret "buzzwords"

The first one is "Ignorance" that means those that see the shirkers day to day who get everything and have begger all wrong with them whilst those that are genuinely ill get nothing are "Ignorant" .
Some truth in it as well, they are "ignorant" of the inside trade secrets of claiming benefits.