PCN from LJL AIRPORT by VCS

nigelbb

That sign is on the perimeter fence by the look of it.

enfield_freddy

the prankster reported http://(par)king-pra)nkster).blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/ukcps-accused-of-issuing-fraudulent.html


that UKPC did this , signs on the WALLS and were told they could receive 10 sanction points , don,t know the outcome tho

enfield_freddy

nigelbb wrote: »

That sign is on the perimeter fence by the look of it.

if its on a fence facing , the only people it could affect are pedestrians , so if one stops to tie his shoelace he gets a ticket?

enfield_freddy

well , as UKPC were clearly breaking the law , armed with your photo , I,ve just asked the BPA what they think


there reply at the moment "Thank you for submitting your question. We will review and respond to you shortly. "


lets see there answer (in writing)

Folkiedave

Something else has occurred to me. Is the Red Route official? I am not sure what it is called - but the council keeps a record of where their yellow lines are painted and are official. I assume this applies to a Red Route too.

VCS for example have painted yellow lines around a local private estate - these are not legal ones, and are ignored by "proper" traffic wardens.

It seems to me that VCS (or the airport) have made a Red Route - but not a council or legal red route - and this has not gone through the appropriate legal process - notices in the local newspaper etc.

If they are then signing this with official looking signs - and then "fining" people for stopping it is a clear case of fraud.

Let me put that a more obvious way. If there is an official red route then surely it should be patrolled officially.

trisontana

They are just a sort of graffiti , nothing more. They have no legal basis.

Folkiedave

Then combined with the signs (IMHO) they are clearly fraudulent attempts to "fine" people.

enfield_freddy

Folkiedave wrote: »

Something else has occurred to me. Is the Red Route official? I am not sure what it is called - but the council keeps a record of where their yellow lines are painted and are official. I assume this applies to a Red Route too.

VCS for example have painted yellow lines around a local private estate - these are not legal ones, and are ignored by "proper" traffic wardens.

It seems to me that VCS (or the airport) have made a Red Route - but not a council or legal red route - and this has not gone through the appropriate legal process - notices in the local newspaper etc.

If they are then signing this with official looking signs - and then "fining" people for stopping it is a clear case of fraud.

Let me put that a more obvious way. If there is an official red route then surely it should be patrolled officially.

correct , VCS are breaking the law , with the backing of JLA

Parking-Prankster

Very useful information on the sizes and distances, thanks.


According to my DfT guidelines, with that width of road then for safety the sign should be at least 41m from the junction.


To be able to read the 1st 6 words, the sign should be 72m back from the junction, and the font 18.8cm.


Any font smaller than about 16cm is never readable by anyone with minimum legal eyesight.


So the 4cm parking charge info is about 4 times too small, and if that is the size of the capital letters, probably 6-8 times too small

trisontana

This is exactly the same situation at Birmingham Airport and Acpoa. They have "red routes" as well.