Equipment for bar code turnstile with web interface

HanTon

paddyrg wrote: »

For almost any event I can think of, having a doorman will be cheaper/more practical.

Thanks for the answer. The inspector or ticket collector is OK for indoor cases. When control is required outside turnstiles resque the situation. But survaillance stuff is still needed.

HanTon

cookie365 wrote: »

The cheapest way is to put Puss in Boots with a scanner :rotfl:

bod1467

I don't see how an event being outdoors changes the situation? If you think you need a turnstile, then a person-with-a-scanner/computer will work equally as well, if not better. (For all the reasons outlined above). If you're concerned about the person getting cold, install a heater and/or get them to wrap up well.

And I suspect you mean Staff not Stuff.

paddyrg

Turnstiles are still supervised - they go wrong. I once worked for a company that sold access systems around the world, it was fascinating, but the reality is silly problem after silly problem.

If we're talking ski resorts, we're talking snow and skis. Turnstiles are exceptionally poor at luggage and restricting access by themselves. I think you'll also find snow and cold a real mechanical problem - in fact environmental protection is a major part of system design. In humid countries you can get condensate unless you heat the insides of the machine. Sandy countries get this horrible super-fine dust everywhere. Cold, you'll get freezing units, splitting rubbers, fast wear. Combined with the 'carrying skis in big puffy clothes' issue and I'd still strongly suggest against it. Especially when you cost in security, emergency egress, installation and maintenance, power, reliable data connectivity, supervision, CCTV, procedures for failure (taking staff off other things to cover or lose business), vandalism, etc. Doubly so as ski seasons aren't all-year in most places, so extra rusting, failure, not paying their way. Instead, throw a person at it - automated system may cost 5 years wages once you've got everything in place, and 5 years is a lot of cashflow and opportunities lost, and by then they'll need upgrading/maintenance!

I'm not sure if this is a serious proposal, if it is, you should be taking to suppliers like Cubic. http://cts.cubic.com/Customers/United-Kingdom

HanTon

paddyrg wrote: »

If we're talking ski resorts, we're talking snow and skis. Turnstiles are exceptionally poor at luggage and restricting access by themselves. I think you'll also find snow and cold a real mechanical problem - in fact environmental protection is a major part of system design.

OK. It sounds reasonably but I met examples of successfull turnstiles work in unfavourable conditions:


The pictures were taken here.

paddyrg

HanTon wrote: »

OK. It sounds reasonably but I met examples of successfull turnstiles work in unfavourable conditions. As a new user I am not allowed to plece images in the message, so if you are interested look at them:
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perco.com/images/gallery/products/turnikety-tripody/turnikety-tripody-perco-ttr-04w-v-sostave-sistemy-platnogo-dostupa-na-gornolyzhnom-kurorte.jpg

Cool - guess they've fitted them, perhaps they last well, perhaps they get serviced every week :-) They do seem to be extremely insecure turnstiles, I'll bet they're supervised, so they have an option in case they do freeze!

If it's a serious project, try Cubic ;-)

Owain_Moneysaver

Here's a website with some ideas of pricing on:

http://www.securitygates.co.uk/turnstilles_full02.html

A problem with barcodes you appear not to have considered is that they are easily copyable by people, so you can't regard the physical object as a trustworthy key.

gjchester

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

Here's a website with some ideas of pricing on:

http://www.securitygates.co.uk/turnstilles_full02.html

A problem with barcodes you appear not to have considered is that they are easily copyable by people, so you can't regard the physical object as a trustworthy key.

You can set up the system so it only allows one entry per unique barcode, but in the images provided, unless there a beefy security guard out of shot it would be abused.


However bad printing, poor light, not bringing the "right" paper etc all mean a man who can is probably a lot more reliable. Most barcode scanners there days are CCD rather than laser/led type and pretty reliable in all light conditions.

if its waist high and unsupervised people will jump over it, I'd also guess the photo ones are no barcode but a RFID solution, as getting a barcode out of a pocket in ski stuff would be no fun...

paddyrg

gjchester wrote: »

I'd also guess the photo ones are no barcode but a RFID solution, as getting a barcode out of a pocket in ski stuff would be no fun...

Pretty certain they are - they seem to have an rfid touch pad.

HanTon

paddyrg wrote: »

Pretty certain they are - they seem to have an rfid touch pad.

Turnstiles from the pictures above certainly have contactless readers. I checked it at the manufacturers website.