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ivyleaf

nursemaggie wrote: »

Was it cream cheese ivyleaf? You sound as if you may be sensitive to lactose.

I would try no sliced bread and no milk. Read all the ingredients of everything they put milk in all sorts of things. Sorry chocolate and many sweets are out and even ham unless you get it from a butcher who boils his own or you do your own. Nearly all the supermarket ones have milk in them.

After a few weeks try a little of one and then remove it again. Try the other after a few days and see if either is the problem. Sometimes wheat bran can be a problem but oat bran can be fine.

Thanks nursemaggie I really appreciate your wanting to help. I have diverticular disease and apparently a "narrowed, looping" bowel (sorry if TMI) so gas gets trapped!
We never buy ready-sliced bread any more, except a small loaf at Christmas just in case the bakery bread becomes inedible before they're open again IYSWIM.

I seem to be okay with dairy, though I must admit I haven't tried doing without it so don't know if I'd notice a difference, if that makes sense. I do try not to eat too much fibre, as high fibre definitely makes things worse, though I know it helps a lot of people.

I often get lovely ham from the butcher's I do have supermarket ham this week, but have just checked and there's no milk in it TBH I'd be a bit wary of giving up dairy altogether as there's a strong family history of osteoporosis.

Thanks again

Floss

Some butchers will have mutton or even hoggett (which is young mutton / "teenage" lamb). Booths supermarkets often have it to order at Christmas, as will farm shops where you are buying from the field. I prefer lamb at the end of the summer as it has more depth of flavour, and salt marsh lamb is delicious.

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oh my goodness, I never in my life would have thought of cauliflower. I had caulie at lunchtime, in my soup and have had a tight stomach all afternoon and am sitting here now, hoping it goes away by bedtime. On the point of indigestion and feels as though it is coming to the boil. My word!! maybe this caulie has been the cause all the time, all these years. I`ll make the soup without tomorrow. I am gobsmacked, I never thought to investigate caulie

mutton in the old days was so cheap, rolled breast of mutton was the norm, one of the cheapest cuts you could get. I was a dab hand at taking the ribs out and preparing it, about age 10, I was safe with a knife. That breast of mutton was so nice, the fat melted into the paxo stuffing and it filled hungry stomachs a treat

nursemaggie

ivyleaf the answer to that is almonds they are very high in calcium. The other thing to take is vitamin D or codliver oil. you definitely need to cut out wheat bran and avoid things with lots of seeds like blackberries and raspberries. If you love them just sive them.

GreyQueen

kittie wrote: »

oh my goodness, I never in my life would have thought of cauliflower. I had caulie at lunchtime, in my soup and have had a tight stomach all afternoon and am sitting here now, hoping it goes away by bedtime. On the point of indigestion and feels as though it is coming to the boil. My word!! maybe this caulie has been the cause all the time, all these years. I`ll make the soup without tomorrow. I am gobsmacked, I never thought to investigate caulie

:T OMG, kittie, the serendipity of random exchanges on the interweb, how interesting this is.

I do hope your stomach settles before bedtime. Be good to hear the outcome of your cauli-less soup experiment tomorrow.

pollyanna_26

Some really interesting posts and some good advice from Nurse Maggie especially about cauliflower . I love it and have no problems but I have known a number of people over the years who said it didn't agree with them including my own mum .
I agree that there are some people who have severe reactions to certain foods , one of my children has an intolerance to cows milk products diagnosed shortly after birth . I think one of the things that confuses things is there are periods when certain things become fashionable . The fact that allergy and intolerance to certain items are two entirely different things is not understood and people don't understand that one can be outgrown and at the moment the other is for life .
I think in the main we know our own bodies very well and as Greenbee and Nurse Maggie have said first stop is the doctor .
I am glad Kittie and GQ have been enlightened re the cauliflower .
Monna I am glad the washing machine is functioning .
Fuddle , Lyn and Mar sorry the wool , farmers and mutton got a bit sidelined . My butcher still sells mutton but it aint cheap . I fondly remember mums irish stew when mutton was an everyday affordable buy . The farmers of all types deserve an outcry from the consumer , they are being bled dry .
polly

nursemaggie

Here is a better video about gluten. DS told me about this one though I have watched some of theirs all their information is from properly scientific sources. The presenters are doctors. I have noticed the owner of the series is Hank's brother. Hank is the guy in the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqfw2C_LBZ0

I am avoiding thinking about cauliflower I love the stuff one of my favourite vegetables. I do know all the brassica family can cause digestive problems to some people.

greenbee

GreyQueen wrote: »

:T OMG, kittie, the serendipity of random exchanges on the interweb, how interesting this is.

I do hope your stomach settles before bedtime. Be good to hear the outcome of your cauli-less soup experiment tomorrow.

Mine is just settling down, and there was no cauli in my stir-fry. Just lots of undercooked veg (which is how I like it). I can eat well-cooked cauli (I have a couple of curry recipes I like as well as cauli cheese and cauliflower and bean soup), but not al-dente or raw.

Ability to digest certain things can depend on specifics of stomach acidity and also your gut flora - anyone who has gone from meat-eating to pulse-eating or the other way will know that you can't always digest stuff you're not used to eating!

mardatha

I've had a bad few weeks with mine (stomach not sheep). I took myself off Lansoprazole after 16 years on PPIs. Managing better now, just on ranitidine.

ivyleaf

nursemaggie wrote: »

ivyleaf the answer to that is almonds they are very high in calcium. The other thing to take is vitamin D or codliver oil. you definitely need to cut out wheat bran and avoid things with lots of seeds like blackberries and raspberries. If you love them just sive them.

Sadly I like almonds but they don't like me! I do take Vit D.

When I was in recovery after my colonoscopy one of the nurses said I would need to avoid fruits with tiny seeds in, but I have never had a problem with them*. Strawberries give me cramps if I eat too many, but they always did.

The dietary advice in the handout they gave me didn't mention avoiding seeded fruits at all!

Am avoiding bran though

* Should I have said I've never had a problem with them so far?