The Garden Fence - help and support in tough times

ArthriticOldThing

NurseMaggie, I understand the conversation was about causes of cancer but if you are diagnosed with Coeliac Disease (as I am) you MUST avoid gluten. It's not a matter of choice!
And it is the wheat (or barley or rye or other gluten containing grains) not the yeast. I so resent that I have this disease as I love bread and the GF versions just don't satisfy me.
I do have a friend who is allergic to wheat but fine with other grains.

mardatha

When I tried going GF for an experiment for ME, I started to itch. So weird and nobody else ever mentioned that as a side effect lol - but I itched like mad all over. Stopped the GF foods and the itch stopped too.
I personally think as a species our health is falling off a cliff at a rate of knots because of pollution. In food and in products and in the air - and there is no way back now. But that's just my (cheerful and light hearted !) personal view.

greenbee

ArthriticOldThing wrote: »

NurseMaggie, if you are diagnosed with Coeliac Disease (as I am) you MUST avoid gluten. It's not a matter of choice!
And it is the wheat (or barley or rye or other gluten containing grains) not the yeast.

Absolutely - but most of those people who are avoiding gluten aren't doing so because they are Coeliac. There are many people who suffer digestive issues when eating bread that are not gluten-related, but assume they are 'sensitive' to gluten. There's no such thing as being 'a bit coeliac' anymore than you can be 'a bit pregnant'.

Coeliac disease can be diagnosed accurately as there are markers that show a reaction to the protein, so Coeliacs should be easily identified and given guidance.

pollyanna_26

Nurse maggie and Greenbee I do agree re the need to go to the doctor .
I think the whole issue surrounding these matters is very complex and although a great deal is being discovered none of us really know .
We all do what feels right for us and everyone has their own take on that .
I confess that Mar echoes some of my thinking when she speaks of pollution and other factors not helping health . My two interests initially in the seventies and eighties were keeping a roof over our heads and paying the mortgage which ha that awful rise . I looked for the cheapest , healthiest way to do so . At the same time I began to develop awareness of what we were doing to the planet and that coloured my thinking . I did the cnd marches , I faced out an american security officer holding a machine gun a few inches from me during a peaceful protest at a nuclear power site . I was a member of both FOE and GP from the early eighties until they started the ever increasing demands to raise my monthly direct debits and joined the chugger revolution and the huge salaries for those at the head . It all began to resemble animal farm .
So now I do what I feel is right for me . Local food collections , my local hospice and 2 cancer charities ( 1 research 1 nurses ) and my youngest is involved in genetic research .
I apologise for dominating the thread today I have probably bored and annoyed a number of people . It isn't good for me to be waiting for a delivery which seems to have gone awol - as my mum used to say the devil makes work for idle hands
Having cleaned and dusted I shall go and find something to do .
polly

monnagran

Having been cooking (and eating) for more years than I care to think about I have seen health advice and food scares come and go.

When i was bringing up my children in the yes, ups and 80s . D*mn tablet. I mean the sixties, seventies and eighties.
Let's start that again.

When I was bringing up my children I made everything possible from scratch. My bread, biscuits, cakes and HM orange squash was very popular with their friends. I wasn't entirely homespun, they did get their fair share of Arctic Roll and Findus pancakes but they were rare treats. Both my boys grew up to be mean cooks themselves.

I have been through every food fashion known to man. Nursemaggie, I remember Pure, White and Deadly by John Yudkin, for a long time after that sugar was banned from our house.

I also find the supply and cost of lamb puzzling. It is by far and away the most expensive meat in the butcher's, but the poor farmers can barely afford to get the lambs to market the rewards are so pathetic. Someone somewhere is making a packet at the expense of the farmers and the consumers.
I can't comment on wool as I am highly allergic to the stuff. Also to any ointment or lotion containing lanolin.

Having been through times when the things that were formerly evil are now trumpeted as being healthy and desirable, I now subscribe to the theory of "everything in moderation. Except chocolate."

We have a new WM. DS fitted it in place and we all gathered round for the ceremonial switching on. All went well until it started to spin. I was upstairs in my room and thought we were in the middle of an earthquake. We all arrived in the kitchen from the 4 corners of the house to see the WM making an escape attempt. Fortunately DS managed to stop it in its tracks halfway across the floor. DIL waxed lyrical about her husband's engineering abilities so the rest of us diplomatically melted away.

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silvasava

Monna - the WM probably just needs levelling! Thank you for the mental picture of you all trying to catch the WM

nursemaggie

AOT I did say 1% are sensitive you were exactly who I was including in the 1%.

It is the other ones who are avoiding it because they think it is some sort of poison I was speaking of. If you click on the link he say so. The guy presenting the SciShow is Coeliac himself but he is one of the lucky ones who is not sensitive to Gluten. He certainly has plenty of problems. There is also Ulcerative Colitis.

You will know gluten free bread is horrible and as fuddle said you miss a sandwich. Even some Doctors have fallen for this fallacy. Please do not resent me telling the truth. it is the other 99% I was talking about and I thought mentioning the 1% first would have made that clear.

I know that both Coeliac disease and ulcerative colitis are very serious diseases. I was after all a nurse.

I am sorry you took offence.

Floss

Monna, the transit bolts may need removing too

monnagran

Thanks for the advice 're. washing machine. It seems to be better now that DS has waved his magic wand. He is a mechanical engineer after all!

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Nargleblast

One thing that annoys me in the media is when people who adopt a gluten free diet are labelled as being faddy, or following celebrity trends.

As someone with colitis I found my symptoms greatly improved when I started eating gluten-free. If I have a sandwich with normal wheat bread it is lovely at the time but I pay for it later.

The comment about it being the yeast strikes a chord though. Yeast and sugar can cause candida infections, which can have all sorts of unpleasant symptoms. Maybe instead of buying GF stuff I should rethink my diet to reduce wheat, dairy and sugar? I only use cow's milk in tea and coffee, having discovered years ago that drinking glasses full of the stuff gives me the runs. And being a cheese lover, I got rid of a persistent phlegmy sensation in my throat by switching to lactose- free cheese.

What I wouldn't give for a good strong cheddar, though....