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pollyanna_26

Interesting post Fuds . I have noticed that my friends from the seventies and eighties ( when we were raising our families ) seem to have a Gaviscon habit . In fact one of my closest friends kept a bottle in her handbag and swigged from it reguarly :eek:
Their children all seem to follow the same pattern .
With less refined foods I assume the cost is higher because often they are produced from better grades flour etc and are not bulked out with additives . I use organic stoneground flour and pasta . Workers welfare is often much higher with the producers and I prefer to pay a little more to ethical employers .
It is worth noting that unrefined wholefoods are much more filling so portions are smaller .
Now I've revealed the fact that i am still the the hippy !!! flower child I was in the sixties I'll wander off singing " If you're going to San Fransisco "
polly

ivyleaf

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I've never ever been able to work out why LAMB in particular is so extortionately expensive in the supermarkets when it's mainly grazed and shepherded but not fed concentrates and also why fleeces are worth pence? surely there is something wrong when the farmer only gets 50p for a fleece?

I agree Lyn, someone is making an awful lot of money out of lamb and it's certainly not the farmers :eek:i

kittie Thank you for the extract from that article. Does it also say anywhere that they have found a connection between insulin spiking and lung cancer? I find a lot of wholemeal foods cause me terrible pain and bloating so would rather stick with the white rice for example, though we do have brown occasionally.

I didn't eat any bread products yesterday and my tummy has felt better than usual, but am not sure what to have instead. Our bakery sells spelt bread and that's nice but very expensive and they only sell it on Saturdays, I think.
Last night I made a pasta bake (with white pasta) and that doesn't seem to have affected me (apart from the loads of washing up it's left behind :eek:)

fuddle

You're all too interesting today. I have stuff to do!! :eek::rotfl:

Where is mutton in the shops? Would I likely get it in a butchers? I don't think I have ever tried mutton.

Lyn 100% wool is so expensive to buy. Yeah it has to be coloured and spun etc but when fleece goes for a song like that I am upset because the middle man has to be profiting big. Whenever I use wool I use Scandinavian yarn. It's sold in the UK but very reasonable to buy. I just hope that the fleeces are worth more than here and the middle man get a fair chunk not all of the profit. That did anger me. We're not valuing one of the most useful resource we have and I would probably attach cheap acrylic yarn dependancy of the fast cheap fashion era to that too.

I just feel that we're abusing the very people who work hard to feed us or potantially keep us warm in favour of 'I want, I need but sell me it cheap 'cos I don't value it as it's easy come easy go and get another that says some thing else about me because society says so'.

What has happened to us eh?

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And then there are those wonderful warm and heavy recycled wool blankets from the National Trust shops, if they can do it why not industry?

fuddle

when I was trying to introduce grains back into my diet I had success with tortilla wraps ivyleaf. Not being able to have a sandwich was hard and that helped in the short term. HTH

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pollyanna_26 wrote: »

Kittie I started eating wholefoods in the seventies and still have my original Cranks cookbook . My children were raised on wholemeal pasta and rice and proper porridge . I think the taste is much nicer .
I too have noticed the drain problems .Our water company did major work in this area three years ago and it appears to date from then .
polly

wow, I too bought the cranks cookbooks and still use them, used to love their date and oat slices when the children were young. Same time as we joined a suma wholefood coop

Ivyleaf, basmati is fine. I just did some more research and am breathing a sigh of relief. Got rid of a load of short grain white rice but that is all. I personally don`t eat any of that sort of food, like bagels and shop bought white bread, even my crackers are oat or rye. Its the bran for you ivleaf, yes best avoided.

I agree with fuddle re wool, loads of spinners are ready and waiting to buy good fleece, trouble is that a lot of fleece is not good for spinning. There is a ready market and fleeces can easily be bought direct from the shepherds. Wonderwool wales will have lots of raw fleece for example. People may prefer man made if they haven`t got time or ability to care properly for natural wool, which can felt very easily. I love wool, even my bedding is wool

moneyistooshorttomention

kittie wrote: »

This is a copy and paste from one of my very well respected health periodicals. I am taking it very seriously and today am ditching all my white rice. I love hm risotto made with white pudding rice and squash :eek: Luckily I love nutty brown rice and hm wholemeal bread. I can`t mess around at my age and always knew about the high incidence of lung cancer in non smokers. There will be multi benefits for me, once I get over ditching the foods. I haven`t eaten `normal` cereals for years, just oat based eg this morning some muesli mixed with jumbo oats and soaked in almond milk last night, it is yummy tbh

"Smoking is the major cause of lung cancer—but the standard Western diet of processed foods can double the risk in people who’ve never smoked.

High glycaemic-index (GI) foods, including processed and fast foods, are an unsuspected cause of lung cancer, while eating plenty of fruits and vegetables can prevent the disease, say researchers.

The risk was discovered when researchers compared the eating habits of 1,905 people, who had recently been diagnosed with lung cancer, with 2,413 healthy people. There was an average 49 per cent higher risk between those eating high- or low-GI foods.

But the risk doubled among people who had never smoked, say researchers from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Centre.

Their discoveries explain why a growing minority of non-smokers are developing lung cancer, they say.

High-GI foods include sugary drinks and foods, white bread and white rice, chips, biscuits and cakes, and most commercial breakfast cereals. The foods cause a sudden spike in blood-sugar levels, which raise insulin levels.""

I've read that somewhere - re white versions of food not being a good idea for lung cancer (but cant recall where).

On a slightly different tack re causative factors for lung cancer - I've just started reading a book "How not to die - discover the foods scientifically proven to prevent and reverse disease" by Michael Greger. One point I've picked up to date is that he mentions that there is such a thing as "dietary secondhand smoke" and that this could be carcinogenic. He was referring to things, for instance, like a Chinese study that showed those people who stir-fried meat daily compared to people not stir-frying meat had three times the incidence of lung cancer and was generally taking a very cautionary approach to the idea of frying food generally. That's the first time I had encountered that thought - and wonder what you make of that?

pollyanna_26

Kittie I have no idea how many school lunchboxes I packed with both sweet and savoury cranks goodies . I have just had a look inside my paperback copy from 1985 ( the 1982 hardback was out of my price range .) My copy cost £3 . 95 which was a lot then . I had my moneys worth many times over . Tomorrow I may make some individual homity pies .
polly

pollyanna_26

mtstm There have been many studies over some time concerning frying foods at high temperatures . Most of the ones I have read refer to the fumes given off by the various oils and fats involved once they reach a certain smoke point . I haven't kept up to do date but some studies had proved a link .
For some years I have heated veg for soups etc in a little veg stock prior to cooking as I have never been a lover of fried foods .
polly

moneyistooshorttomention

I shall have to think on re that cooking of food then I guess.

I would say that the only fried food I ever have is the very occasional fried egg - but I'm guessing sauted food counts as fried food iyswim? I do saut! foods sometimes.

My usual method of making soup is to saut! the vegetables in a little oil first and then add vegetable stock, etc and cook on.

I shall have to experiment a bit with soup I think - I am wondering, for instance, whether using coconut oil instead of olive oil (ie having that higher temperature it can reach safely I gather) will make a difference.

I was given a bowl of vegetable soup recently that was very tasteless - and am still figuring out just where the taste went. Hoping its just that the vegetables seem to have been cooked in water instead of stock and no seasoning added. I suspect that they didn't have initial saut!ing before the liquid was added either. At the moment - I'm thinking the tastelessness was probably down to the missing stock powder and seasonings.

Must try making soup as usual:
- with coconut oil
- without saut!ing at all but still with normal stock and seasoning

and see what my verdict on the taste is.