Forever Living Products

trencherpilot

My ex went bankrupt because of this stuff and her "Upline" Promised her financial freedom etc. It did finish her financially and us eventually as she lied for 2 years about the success she was having and debt she ran up. All on cards and loans it finally came to around 40k. As a result these pyramid schemes especially this one feature no where in my life at all. The only people who make money from these schemes/ businesses are the ones who got in at the start.

mickaveli2001

Very few get success, and those who are able to earn an average of £1,200 per month do so at the expense of alienating themselves from friends and family and certainly isn't residual income.


Invest 4 years in getting a degree in a science related subject where you can earn up to £1,600 a month 'residually', with the more realistic opportunity to enhance that with effort.


The products are OK. Certainly not holistic-grade as many of the products still contain those nasty chemicals (such as Titanium Dioxide being 1 of many in the fluoride-free gel as an example) and the high price tag isn't for the purity as stated by many who are plugged in, but rather for the ability to pay big bonuses at the top, maintenance for the properties owned by FL and things of that nature.


You can get Aloe just as pure at a fraction of the price , no, not at Holland and Barrett, but from wholesalers and online from dedicated businesses with a knowledge on overall health

PlutoinCapricorn

Still interested despite all the posts sceptical people have made in this and other threads about FLP and MLM in general?

Such optimism!

mickaveli2001

My advice to anyone would be to stay clear of it, not just Forever Living but anything which has an MLM model.


You will quickly be pouring money into Forever and seeing little return. The box is £199, then there's the "success" day events (normally on Saturdays) that cost £30 each time (your expected to go to them, especially if you don't sell the equivalent of x10 boxes per month because it must be a 'training' issue) there are also training events too. Then once you've 'bought' and paid for tickets, materials, fuel (and your time) they also have a monthly web subscription to take your money which includes your very own web template, some pdf's and other useless things, which you can get yourself.... But wait,,, You are NOT allowed to sell these products on your own website, town stall, or directly into gym's...... The goal of this company is to keep you plugged in, feeding into the bs, with only being able to sucker your closest into the machine where it starts all over again (if they're that stupid to do it) and if you value your family and friends, then you don't really have any other options other than going door to door, attempting to sell over-priced (and they are) aloe items.... Good luck with this if you, like me, are in an area where people couldn't care less about their health, and if they did, wouldn't have the money to buy an apple let alone £25 aloe bottle

gbeanz

This is an interesting thread. A friend has tried to recruit me into this - I don't have time and already have a job - but the presentation seemed basically a pyramid scheme and I did not see how it could possibly work. The trainer was going on about trips overseas to luxury hotels etc and it is impossible to see how this could be financed from selling to individuals.
I feel bad because I told my friend I would host a party for her but I really don't want my friends being subject to the sales spiel which is, as somebody mentions on this or another thread, quite cultish (careful how I typed that!).

mickaveli2001

You can achieve annual trips but in order to do so would require you to have 20 people recruited as 'independent distributors', and have them recruit too, likely alienating yourself from friends and family as a result. The aim at your party is to recruit 1 - 2 people into the 'dream' / 'opportunity', with a bonus of any direct product sales.


The product is not what draws in the money for this company (which is the real reason why it's not in stores). The individual who is indoctrinated into the dream is what brings in the money; through events, training, seminars, materials, subscriptions, regular personal product purchases and so on. I'm a somewhat accomplished salesman and could get (and could have got) this product into many gyms and local health stores, but it's against their company policy to do so. They deliberately have it designed so that it's extremely difficult to sell this product legitimately regardless of your entrepreneurial abilities, because they want you to bring in people, preferably impressionable and submissive enough to feed this company money for a year before eventually realising there's no viable income to be made unless you turn into a disliked person to those around you.


I would recommend you visit an event to see for yourself. Look at the presentations from those high up the pyramid. They flaunt the holidays they can take, and the new house move, but the sad reality is that they no longer have any friends (they were unsupportive of their dream) and the friends they have are within the company itself, meeting them once a year, or at events. It is as you said - a cult. Be cautious, do your research into it, and best of luck

Credit-Crunched

I have actually lost friends to this ponzi scheme.

Friends wife started selling, then every time we met she would try to flog the dream to me, my friends and any one that would sit by her.

Telling us of 5* trips to Mexico, a lady who now drives a Range Rover Sport in a £1m house, who used to be a police officer.

Sack the boss, she told me, let yourself be free, to earn thousands.

apparently, Aloe gel can cure my diabetes...I may have to tell the NHS about that one.

It got to the stage where we would leave the pub if she was coming, as she that was literally all she talked about. If we dare challenge it we were jealous of her and the others successes.

Not for me thanks!

Brummum11

As soon as they talk about signing up others to make the bulk of your money rather than selling the actual products, alarm bells should ring!

Ask them for the details of someone that's making a fortune by just selling the product and not the dream.

Kijjo

Hi everyone,

It's only natural that human beings are suspicious of what they do not know. I am a Forever Living Distributor and I was too. But if you do your research, you'll find that Forever is a legitimate company and Network Marketing or Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) has been around a long time.


There are skills to be learnt in order to be successful, so it's not a get rich quick scheme. The rewards are directly proportionate to the effort one puts into the business. A pyramid scheme is one in which there are no products and money is paid to the person that sponsors you. A proper MLM has money paid to the company and there are products given in exchange for money.

As for the short comings of some distributors, well, people are flawed. Some do as they are trained whilst others don't. That is typical of any business or work place and not unique to Forever. All ingredients of all products are in the public domain. Compared to normal high street prices, the products cost more but they are good value for money. As for the claims of cure, Forever are emphatic to say, their products ARE NOT A CURE. But when taken, many people report changes in their conditions and find their symptoms very much reduced. Obviously, speak to your doctor and use common sense before taking the products.

As for those who don't like the company, products, the network marketing business model. That's ok. The business model is not for everyone. Just like the 9-5 grind isn't for everyone. Network Marketing businesses, Forever and all the others, are for people who have racked their brain and thought "surely, there's got to be more to life than this?" because they have the potential to make ANYONE realise financial freedom in a way traditional careers don't. But don't be mistaken, there's lots of work involved but BOY, IS IT WORTH IT!!!

soolin

For people tempted to sign up with this company, it is worth noting the newbies signing up to sing its praises- that will be you at some point in the future when you run out of friends to sell to and have to start hitting forums trying to drum up interest.