Booked for using mobile while stationery

benham3160

JustinR1979 wrote: »

I've only owned 1.9 vag tdi's, which are so thermally efficient they don't warm up idling - or maybe I haven't had need to leave a cold engine running for 20 minutes as that would be stupid.
Excessive idling does more harm than good, camshafts and lifters, turbo seals etc.
30 seconds to a minute to get the oil round.
Most wear is done on a cold engine, the longer you're idling, the longer the engine is running below ideal temperature.

On a TDi VAG with 0w/30 oil? I likewise own a TDi VAG for my sins.

I agree excessive idling isn't good for an engine, but a modern engine with the correct oil, no, oil starvation isn't a particular issue.

I've not seen many engines go on to boost idling either, I'd rather get some oil around first before driving a turbocharged engine out of the two scenarios.

Gloomendoom

Using mobile phones when driving: the law

When you can use a phone in your vehicle
If you’re the driver, you can only use your phone in a vehicle if you:

• need to call 999 or 112 in an emergency and it’s unsafe or impractical to stop
• are safely parked

Source

Marktheshark

What are you two tittering on about ?
Go do it via PM

Voltaire7

benham3160 wrote: »

Heavens - That's bitter!

I'm not against prosecuting somebody for doing something dangerous, but if the car was actually parked that to me is simply absurd, the ceaseless march of pettifogging bureaucracy.

I know the old chestnut of "haven't you got criminals to catch" can get officers backs up and is often a fallacy but I think it's warranted in this case.

But bitterness towards the police is fair game?

Your conclusion is based on hearing 1 side of the story, from someone who wasn't there, so try not to get yourself carried away too much!

Voltaire7

r2015 wrote: »

I never knew fixed penalty fines were reduced the more the police gave them out.

Where do you think the money goes? Have a wee think about it.

Marktheshark

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Using mobile phones when driving: the law

Thats not the "law" its is a short interpretation of it.
The Clue is in the word DRIVING :



In Other Words Driving, not parked up.

Spicy_McHaggis

Marktheshark wrote: »

Thats not the "law" its is a short interpretation of it.
The Clue is in the word DRIVING :



In Other Words Driving, not parked up.

If he's in charge of the steering, braking and propulsion then legally he's driving.

JustinR1979

benham3160 wrote: »

On a TDi VAG with 0w/30 oil? I likewise own a TDi VAG for my sins.

I agree excessive idling isn't good for an engine, but a modern engine with the correct oil, no, oil starvation isn't a particular issue.

I've not seen many engines go on to boost idling either, I'd rather get some oil around first before driving a turbocharged engine out of the two scenarios.

0w30? No.
Did I mention oil starvation? No.
Why would it boost at idle? It spins, but there's not a great deal of lubrication.
Get oil round first? Yes, as I said 30-60 seconds is adequate.

DUTR

Marktheshark wrote: »

Thats not the "law" its is a short interpretation of it.
The Clue is in the word DRIVING :



In Other Words Driving, not parked up.

Parked up, does not include a running engine.

Spicy_McHaggis

JustinR1979 wrote: »

0w30? No.
Did I mention oil starvation? No.
Why would it boost at idle? It spins, but there's not a great deal of lubrication.
Get oil round first? Yes, as I said 30-60 seconds is adequate.

We need darkmatter back for this one.