Landlords to blame for Britain's rising house prices

CLAPTON

jjlandlord wrote: »

'Cutting demand' in relation to immigration means actually sending people back.
Do the people supporting this actually understand the negative impact on the economy?

it could mean simply stopping the net 250,000 new arrivals each year

there would be no adverse economic impact on the UK as there is no significant economic benefit of increasing the population of the UK and lots of currently uncosted disadvantages (overcrowded housing being one of course)

Cyberman60

jjlandlord wrote: »

'Cutting demand' in relation to immigration means actually sending people back.
Do the people supporting this actually understand the negative impact on the economy?

It's not a case of sending them back, but stopping them coming here in the first place !! :mad:

I'm sure there will be a massive positive effect on the economy by letting the rough sleepers and the big issue sellers from Bulgaria and Romania return to their countries.

Cyberman60

CLAPTON wrote: »

it could mean simply stopping the net 250,000 new arrivals each year

there would be no adverse economic impact on the UK as there is no significant economic benefit of increasing the population of the UK and lots of currently uncosted disadvantages (overcrowded housing being one of course)

Absolutely correct. The advantages are clearly less demand on all services especially the free NHS, welfare and schools.

jjlandlord

Those who still cannot see the huge economic benefits that the country got from immigration do indeed deserve to suffer the consequences of stopping it.

Cyberman60

jjlandlord wrote: »

Those who still cannot see the huge economic benefits that the country got from immigration do indeed deserve to suffer the consequences of stopping it.

We've clearly had some benefits BUT we are now overcrowded with dross. Methinks you overplay the benefits as most of the PC brigade do.

The disadvantages of overpopulation with low skilled immigrants and eastern criminals now though are enormous.

CLAPTON

jjlandlord wrote: »

Those who still cannot see the huge economic benefits that the country got from immigration do indeed deserve to suffer the consequences of stopping it.

presumably you see the huge benefits of the rise of the uK population over the last 10 years would, at a minimum, include

-year on year increase in per capita GDP (even if a poor indicator of welfare)
-year on year above inflation wage increases
-year on year easier access to NHS including GP, dentist and hospital services
-year on year increase in per capita home ownership
-year on year real decrease in rental costs
-year on year decrease in traffic congestion
-year on year decrease in train over crowding
-year on year improvement in overall housing standards
-year on year increase in full time working
-year on year decrease in school class sizes

plus I'm sure you will add a few dozen more benefits

TickersPlaysPop

CLAPTON wrote: »

presumably you see the huge benefits of the rise of the uK population over the last 10 years would, at a minimum, include

-year on year increase in per capita GDP (even if a poor indicator of welfare)
-year on year above inflation wage increases
-year on year easier access to NHS including GP, dentist and hospital services
-year on year increase in per capita home ownership
-year on year real decrease in rental costs
-year on year decrease in traffic congestion
-year on year decrease in train over crowding
-year on year improvement in overall housing standards
-year on year increase in full time working
-year on year decrease in school class sizes

plus I'm sure you will add a few dozen more benefits

STOP....!!

To all people here, please do not take the bait!

This is a tactic by Clapers to divert the conversation... if he/she seriously believes the comments above it worries me even more.

CLAPTON

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

STOP....!!

To all people here, please do not take the bait!

This is a tactic by Clapers to divert the conversation... if he/she seriously believes the comments above it worries me even more.

why not add something of substance ?

like you could explain the benefits of rising population
or you could refute or support the individual points above
or you could explain how a better democracy could be developed

antrobus

Cyberman60 wrote: »

Good heavens, somebody else that can apply commonsense instead of blaming landlords. :rotfl:

It is not a question of commonsense. It is a question of statistics.

And neither is it something that I would necessarily go all UKIP about. It's just that if you have something like 2.5m extra people coming to live in the UK over a decade, they have to live somewhere. And if you don't build the extra houses for them to live in then, well, you are going to have rising prices and a 'crisis'.

It's just demographics.

lukeh23

One issue that certainly needs resolving is having BTL'ers competing against first time buyers. BTL'ers typically have the advantage of leverage on existing properties.