Booking a holiday in term time ?

surreysaver

Mojisola wrote: »

We seem to agree.

If that's how you would like to interpret my statement.

fluffnutter

surreysaver wrote: »

Also a good lesson in standing up for yourself, and protecting individual rights.

Oh please. Schools stipulating that attendance is compulsory is not against your 'human rights' or some such hysterical nonsense.

When you put your child in school you agree the conditions that school imposes. If you don't like those conditions, there's always home-schooling. You have a choice. No one's denying you your 'individual rights'.

Children whose parents are the types to bang on about 'human rights' and how they shouldn't listen to teachers because they've got 'rights' etc. etc. are usually utterly insufferable.

onlyroz

atolaas wrote: »

I think that the point is being missed here. The whole reason for taking a child out of school in term time is to go on holiday is the cost of going on holiday during school holidays. The blame lies with the holiday industry and not the schools. Its easier to punish the parents for breaking the rules rather than regulating an industry that takes advantage of the fact that families with children of school going age can (in theory) only go on holiday at fixed times during the year. *Takes a breath*

It's pure economics, simple supply and demand. Are you saying that holidays during the 13 weeks' school holidays should be subsidised by the general tax payer? Would the non-parents be happy for the cost of their term time holidays to rise? Any politician to suggest such a thing would be laughed out of parliament.

surreysaver

atolaas wrote: »

I think that the point is being missed here. The whole reason for taking a child out of school in term time is to go on holiday is the cost of going on holiday during school holidays. The blame lies with the holiday industry and not the schools. Its easier to punish the parents for breaking the rules rather than regulating an industry that takes advantage of the fact that families with children of school going age can (in theory) only go on holiday at fixed times during the year. *Takes a breath*

But they are businesses. Its not that holiday prices are inflated - its the opposite. Quite times prices are reduced. But that isn't the OP's reason. The OP's reason is they want to go at a quiet time.

pinkladyof66

marleyboy wrote: »

I imagine out of term time holidays are not just about the costs. It can be near impossible for all working parents to book the same holiday dates as the children get. Thats a very small window for a whole workforce.

Yes agree with you here my hubbie runs his own self employed printing business and can only really take time off at the quiet season or he will lose not only alot of money but customers.. i work in an office where we have lots of parents with young school age children... who all seems to want school holidays inc grandparents who take over the care of their grandsons/grand daughters and we also have foster carers who have young children.

My son does not cope well with the busy ness of lots of children etc. hence he doesnt go to school parties. he is taught out of the classroom with a 1-1 there is no way my son would cope with going away in busy school holidays in summer.. and trying to get a full week off when my husband can and me is very very difficult if not impossible. I have known numerous parents who have taken their child out of my sons school for a week to go to butlins.. i cant understand how this is educational.. and as for the comments lying on the beach for a fortnight. I think Tigsteroonie would agree with me here taking a child with special needs on holiday in no way would you be able to lie around the pool for even 30 mins it is just not do able.

Jagraf

surreysaver wrote: »

They are acting in loco parentis. That does not go as far as having parental rights.

Is it more important that a child has a right to an education (home schooled or otherwise), or that a parent has a right to remove him or her from it? I thought this law was to help protect the right of a child to an education? And also to protect the education of a classful of children.

fluffnutter

atolaas wrote: »

I think that the point is being missed here. The whole reason for taking a child out of school in term time is to go on holiday is the cost of going on holiday during school holidays. The blame lies with the holiday industry and not the schools. Its easier to punish the parents for breaking the rules rather than regulating an industry that takes advantage of the fact that families with children of school going age can (in theory) only go on holiday at fixed times during the year. *Takes a breath*

I don't disagree with this but unfortunately we're in the grip of a neo-liberal economic policy and the idea of regulating any commercial industry is beyond the will of most governments.

Ironically the same sort of people who bang on about 'individual rights' are usually the same who argue against government regulation.

marleyboy

pinkladyof66 wrote: »

I think Tigsteroonie would agree with me here taking a child with special needs on holiday in no way would you be able to lie around the pool for even 30 mins it is just not do able.

Speaking as her husband, I would have to agree with her

fluffnutter

It's shit for teachers too, you know, but no one thinks about that. They have to pay the hiked prices and can't just bugger off for a fortnight and pay a £60 fine either.

No doubt the argument will be 'They chose to be a teacher'. Sure, just like you chose to have kids.

pinkladyof66

fluffnutter wrote: »

It's shit for teachers too, you know, but no one thinks about that. They have to pay the hiked prices and can't just bugger off for a fortnight and pay a £60 fine either.

No doubt the argument will be 'They chose to be a teacher'. Sure, just like you chose to have kids.

Maybe not but then us other workers dont get 6 weeks holiday in summer when we have pay for over inflated child care... as i can only have 1 week off in summer months and also only 2 days at xmas i would love to have 2 weeks off with my son over xmas but that is a perk of a teacher is it not ?