Summoning to court for mobile use while driving

Spicy_McHaggis

Dekota wrote: »

By default, I know I'm assumed to be a motorist criminal by the judge so I know my explanations have no bearing on it but putting forward my explanation as I have to the judge in my initial post, will I be penalised further for not accepting guilt? What I am contesting is the not wearing seatbelt part and if that comes up in the summons, that is not true but theres no way I can prove I had my seatbelt on obviously. I had looked at the route in advance but I was looking at the turning I needed to take to get to the client.

If I am convicted of breaking the seatbelt law aswell as handheld use law then am I looking at 6 points/imprisonment or only 3 points?

Many thanks

Seatbelt isn't points.

DaveF327

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

the term is USING A HANDHELD DEVICE (that means any device that you can hold in your hand including sat navs, mobiles phone, ipads, MP3 players and so on).

To clarify, the definition of a hand-held device is "a device, other than a two-way radio, which performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data". An "interactive communication function" includes:

• sending or receiving oral or written messages
• sending or receiving facsimile documents
• sending or receiving still or moving images; and
• providing access to the internet

So, you're stuffed if you've been caught holding a phone, tablet, iPad, fax machine (who'd have thought that?!) or wi-fi enabled camera.

A self contained sat-nav (with no cellular radio or wifi) and offline mp3 player doesn't come under the scope of this regulation, but can be included in regulation 104 (driver's control).

Marktheshark

The seatbelt trick is standard, never remove your seatbelt until instructed to by the officer and make sure you make a point of it by saying shall I remove this seatbelt.

Spicy_McHaggis

DaveF327 wrote: »

To clarify, the definition of a hand-held device is "a device, other than a two-way radio, which performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data". An "interactive communication function" includes:

• sending or receiving oral or written messages
• sending or receiving facsimile documents
• sending or receiving still or moving images; and
• providing access to the internet

So, you're stuffed if you've been caught holding a phone, tablet, iPad, fax machine (who'd have thought that?!) or wi-fi enabled camera.

A self contained sat-nav (with no cellular radio or wifi) and offline mp3 player doesn't come under the scope of this regulation, but can be included in regulation 104 (driver's control).

How can a non cellular iPad/tablet be covered or a fax machine without a phone line be covered? Non can do any of those things without a phone line.

arcon5

I always thought it was to do with the use of a 'mobile device'. If it's in a cradle it becomes a fixed device. Mobile not being limited to cellular devices, but handheld devices in general.

Don't have much sympathy here i'm afraid.

photome

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

How can a non cellular iPad/tablet be covered or a fax machine without a phone line be covered? Non can do any of those things without a phone line.

A wifi enabled tablet could do it

captainawsome

1) 2) and 3) should read: Regardless of why, I was using my phone.

4) 5) and 6) May translate into: I gave the police a load of attitude and now they are picking on me.

Your excuse that you where using you phone for work on a frosty morning (not sure why that's even slightly relevant? But anyway) while you waited to buy a cradle will carry as much weight as saying "Sorry officer, I was going to wait until I was soaber to drive home, but I never, but I will be soaber tomorrow so it won't happen again"

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

How can a non cellular iPad/tablet be covered or a fax machine without a phone line be covered? Non can do any of those things without a phone line.

Ipads use wifi signals or open networking to gain access to the internet for using it as a sat nav such as hotspots from BT or Sky in which you can place Skype calls over VOIP.


I could set up a printer and fax machine in my car and it be very affective for a moving office.


WIFI fax printer, Get a laptop/tablet mounted in the car with a WIFI/4g dongle, connect Wifi fax machine to dongle, use laptop wifi for internet and use your fax number landline and divert it to a VOIP service number just like you can divert you house number calls to your mobile phone if it isn't answered within a set number of calls.

Spicy_McHaggis

captainawsome wrote: »

1) 2) and 3) should read: Regardless of why, I was using my phone.

4) 5) and 6) May translate into: I gave the police a load of attitude and now they are picking on me.

Your excuse that you where using you phone for work on a frosty morning (not sure why that's even slightly relevant? But anyway) while you waited to buy a cradle will carry as much weight as saying "Sorry officer, I was going to wait until I was soaber to drive home, but I never, but I will be soaber tomorrow so it won't happen again"

Were you !!!!ed when you typed that?

BeenThroughItAll

No sympathy I'm afraid. Phone use + frosty morning = danger to other road users.
Hopefully you get the book thrown at you.